From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: more on starttls, gnutls-cli and using tls for mail Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:47:06 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: <9kr54n3ymd.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> References: <20039.8838.116211.694328@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <8762m0n5qi.fsf@red-bean.com> <87ipq0k0q0.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fwl4nqu8.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1313394323 22460 80.91.229.12 (15 Aug 2011 07:45:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 07:45:23 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 15 09:45:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QsrrH-0003dc-7l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:45:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45095 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QsrrG-00054h-3I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 03:45:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45501) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QsrrD-00054O-4z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 03:45:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QsrrC-0005qL-Ap for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 03:45:11 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:41432) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QsrrC-0005qC-3I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 03:45:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QsrrA-0003YK-AH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:45:08 +0200 Original-Received: from 85.183.18.158 ([85.183.18.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:45:08 +0200 Original-Received: from rileyrg by 85.183.18.158 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:45:08 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.183.18.158 Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4kKppxeTdEw46Wf/tZ2+weypINY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:143224 Archived-At: Tim Cross writes: > You might be able to clarify something for me. Your the second person > I've come across in as many months who changes smtp server based on > the from address. Your process is even more of puzzling and I'd like > to understand what the reasons are. Firstly gmail wont let you send with a different from unless they are friend acocunts in which case the other email addresses are buried in the header. Secondly reliable and correct storage of the sent email in the gmail archives. Thirdly some companies have all sorts of silly spam rules which will detect "strange" header setups such as "friend account smtp usage" and block your email. It can only be cleaner and better to use the correct smtp server for the correct email sender and is a must imo.