From: Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE>
Cc: Emacs help <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Printing from WindowXP version of emacs
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:55:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e36f6ab209c32ce682f75b3a86ccab0@Web.DE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43A48239.3020809@student.lu.se>
Am 17.12.2005 um 22:25 schrieb Lennart Borgman:
> It looks to me that the printing interface in CUPS is different from
> that normally used by GUI applications in Windows.
>
Please beware, Lennart! CUPS is the mechanism that takes takes items
from the printer queue(s) and transfers them to the right printer.
The print dialog is separated from this. It's almost nothing (lpr
-Pprinter_queue_name file), or it's an application from OpenWindows,
CDE, KDE, Gnome, or Aqua on Mac OS X. Usually UNIX programmes use the
programmatic interface to put something into the spool area, i.e. the
printer queue. Usually the programme should not need to take care what
kind of file type this data is. CUPS will recognise this and use means
to convert the data into a form compatible to the printer's needs -- or
it fails and raises a message, or the printer fails and CUPS raises
that message. CUPS can be compared to GDI. CUPS is almost independent
from what a printer manufacturer delivers, because it uses ISO
standards (PostScript, PDF -- text is wrapped into PS code, graphics
too). It needs a PPD file. It tells all about the printer -- accept how
much RAM it actually has, or which fonts are in the extension
cartridge. These values can be asked from the printer in PostScript. Or
a manufacturer delivers a module for the printer GUI that allows the
user to access the printer and configure things (have you seen HP Web
JetAdmin? This one is only SNMP based). Since CUPS delivers standards
to the printers, the programmes usually spool standard data too.
Filters are needed sometimes, to convert text to PS, or to wrap a
graphics format into an envelope that allows the printer to print it.
Ghostscript and GIMP-Print are used to convert text or graphics into
ESC/P or such proprietary formats. In Linux you have some projects that
write code for these, LPRng for example, or Gnome Print. (CUPS is
something like TCP/IP in Internet. Above this level you have useful
"applications" like FTP or HTTP, or print dialogs.)
The problem is that M$ is always making things badder then they find
them somewhere else. And once you've discovered a way to use Losedows
means, next release changes this. It becomes documented at the n+1st
release. Approximately ...
Now, honestly, in UNIX (*BSD, Linux, Solaris, ...) there are no proper
print job GUIs. They are in the windowing systems used. And so they're
probably different every time ... But since GNU Emacs supports
different outfits and file systems and codings and scripts it should be
able to support different access to different print job GUIs.
I am no expert too, I think, I just had often to install and to fix
many things.
--
Greetings
Pete
Got Mole problems?
Call Avogadro 6.02 x 10^23
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2005-12-15 15:31 Printing from WindowXP version of emacs sbrown
2005-12-15 18:30 ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-15 18:35 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-16 7:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 8:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-16 8:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 14:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-16 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-17 2:42 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-17 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-17 9:38 ` Peter Dyballa
2005-12-17 11:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-17 15:50 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-17 16:31 ` Peter Dyballa
2005-12-17 21:25 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-17 23:55 ` Peter Dyballa [this message]
2005-12-21 18:15 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 21:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-21 22:50 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 23:41 ` Edward O'Connor
2005-12-21 23:51 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-17 9:51 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-17 13:11 ` Lennart Borgman
[not found] ` <mailman.19684.1134911288.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-18 18:22 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-18 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2005-12-19 17:53 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-19 21:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2005-12-20 1:11 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-20 4:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.19893.1135054520.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-20 22:40 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-21 4:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2005-12-22 23:11 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-23 8:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2005-12-30 0:38 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-30 11:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2006-01-05 6:53 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2006-01-05 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2006-01-07 12:02 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2006-01-07 12:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-20 14:45 ` Peter Boettcher
2005-12-20 20:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-20 22:22 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 4:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-21 7:49 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 18:39 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-21 20:11 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 22:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-21 22:48 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-22 4:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-22 8:02 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-22 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-22 20:46 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-23 8:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-23 14:06 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-23 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-24 13:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-24 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-24 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 9:26 ` Peter Dyballa
2005-12-16 10:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 9:19 ` Peter Dyballa
2005-12-16 10:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 14:19 ` Lennart Borgman
[not found] ` <mailman.19545.1134911104.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-19 9:58 ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-19 21:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2005-12-20 7:41 ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-20 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-20 20:59 ` Drew Adams
2005-12-15 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2005-12-15 19:36 Jay Bingham
2005-12-19 11:18 LENNART BORGMAN
2005-12-19 21:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-19 22:11 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-19 23:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-19 23:30 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-20 4:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] <mailman.19804.1134991437.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-19 16:28 ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-20 10:58 LENNART BORGMAN
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2005-12-20 17:15 ` Mathias Dahl
2006-01-03 0:49 BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-03 5:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-03 9:44 ` Peter Dyballa
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2006-01-03 13:06 ` Chris McMahan
2006-01-03 19:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-03 21:52 ` Lennart Borgman
[not found] ` <mailman.21297.1136325265.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-03 22:08 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-03 22:12 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-03 13:08 LENNART BORGMAN
2006-01-03 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-04 0:34 BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-04 10:00 ` Peter Dyballa
2006-01-05 1:56 ` BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-05 13:01 ` Peter Dyballa
2006-01-05 15:41 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-05 21:17 ` Peter Dyballa
2006-01-06 8:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-05 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-05 21:18 ` Peter Dyballa
2006-01-06 8:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-06 11:59 ` Peter Dyballa
2006-01-06 14:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-04 5:10 BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-04 8:45 LENNART BORGMAN
2006-01-04 18:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-04 19:14 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-05 1:17 ` BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-05 9:24 LENNART BORGMAN
2006-01-05 16:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-05 21:01 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-06 9:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-07 5:00 BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-07 9:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-08 1:06 BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-08 4:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-09 8:29 LENNART BORGMAN
2006-01-09 11:42 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-10 3:13 ` BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-10 10:19 LENNART BORGMAN
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