From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: How to restore the layout? Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9d1b8879-0484-4a66-867f-becc4a9dabea@default> References: <51C5AA68.4000204@alice.it> <4E4C522D-DBCC-4133-A764-82C9CCE81E2D@swipnet.se> <8913208E-7FE2-41F5-AC93-000108413C47@swipnet.se> <51D126A4.50402@gmx.at> <55419fed-b69d-4d07-81b2-b5b70f113929@default> <51D3EE8D.3040306@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372860548 5348 80.91.229.3 (3 Jul 2013 14:09:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 14:09:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: Juanma Barranquero , martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 03 16:09:07 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UuNk3-00058J-IR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 16:09:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45841 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UuNk3-000307-2J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 10:09:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53605) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UuNjy-0002wM-K0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 10:09:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UuNjx-00039m-FF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 10:09:02 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:19603) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UuNjx-00039g-9u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 10:09:01 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r63E8vn4008533 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 3 Jul 2013 14:08:58 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r63E8uNw024198 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 3 Jul 2013 14:08:56 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt111.oracle.com (abhmt111.oracle.com [141.146.116.63]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r63E8t97025099; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 14:08:55 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161473 Archived-At: > > Note that the font parameter determines the size of the frame and most > > of its building blocks (toolbar, scrollbars, fringes, ...) on screen. And thank goodness for that interaction. It provides a way to resize things together. > Yes. Currently it works because there's few people using the feature > yet, and they do not change the default font(set) between invocations > of Emacs. But I'll fix it soonish. That "fix" sounds ominous, but perhaps I'm becoming paranoid. I don't understand what you are saying there (what works? what is the feature? what is the relation to changing font(set) between invocations?) I hope that changing the font size will continue to resize the frame and associated building blocks. If you choose to offer some other behavior, please at least preserve this longstanding behavior as well, as an alternative. I make heavy use of this feature (a frame's font driving size in general). It would break most of what I use everyday if this feature were to be "fixed" away.