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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>,
	Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: 39902@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#39902: 28.0.50; Marking in dired with active region
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:20:53 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9c815660-acc0-45f9-ab9f-c95cce43d967@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wo7bzz4h.fsf@mail.linkov.net>

> > The docstring of `dired-mark-inclusive' should be enhanced a bit I
> > think.  You could add one sentence about what "inclusive" means, and
> > another saying that other (un-)marking commands are also covered.
> 
> I enhanced the docstring, renamed to `dired-mark-region',
> and pushed to master.
> 
> The default behavior was unchanged since it's consistent with
> marking without region. But this is not my personal preference.
> I have dozens of customized options in my init file, even for features
> that I implemented, my customization still differs from default values
> that make sense for most users.  The default value of the new option
> `dired-mark-region' could be changed too in case more people
> will demand this.

Thank you for changing the name of the option.  I meant
to say something about that, but forgot.

I don't know what you have as the doc string (I don't
have the diff/patch), but here's my opinion about the
option description:

It's _not_ good to express it in the terms you described:
as being about including or excluding the limit at the
region end.  That's not it at all, IMO.

This should be expressed in terms of the behavior being
either line-oriented (as is nearly all of Dired) or
file-name oriented.

Put differently, the description should say that the
two choices are these:

1. Mark if _any_ part of the file's line is selected.
2. Mark if _all_ of the file name is selected.

(Where "selected" means "in the region".)

That's much clearer, I think.  It's expressed in terms
of what users do and see.  Either you need to select
some part of the line or you need to select all of the
file name.  What could be simpler?

(Anyway, I'm glad we've more or less reached agreement.)





  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-23 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-04 14:29 bug#39902: 28.0.50; Marking in dired with active region Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-04 15:41 ` Drew Adams
2020-03-04 16:04   ` Stephen Berman
2020-03-04 21:07     ` Drew Adams
2020-03-04 23:46 ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-05  1:11   ` Drew Adams
2020-03-05 13:58   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-05 23:42     ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-06  2:30       ` Drew Adams
2020-03-07  0:07       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-08  0:38         ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-08 14:00           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-08 17:04             ` Drew Adams
2020-03-08 23:56               ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-09  0:37                 ` Drew Adams
2020-03-09 14:53                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-09 22:28                   ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-10  0:41                     ` Drew Adams
2020-03-10 23:24                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-10 23:49                         ` Stephen Berman
2020-03-10 23:56                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-11  0:24                         ` Drew Adams
2020-03-10 23:55                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-11  0:08                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-11  0:18                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-11  0:29                           ` Drew Adams
2020-03-11  1:21                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-12  0:43                             ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-12  1:13                               ` Drew Adams
2020-03-13  0:39                                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-13  8:31                                   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-13 22:30                                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-14 18:03                                       ` Drew Adams
2020-03-14 17:56                                   ` Drew Adams
2020-03-14 23:45                                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-15  2:46                                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-15 20:52                                         ` Drew Adams
2020-03-15 20:50                                       ` Drew Adams
2020-03-15 23:41                                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-16  1:46                                           ` Drew Adams
2020-03-17  0:51                                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-18 23:51                                               ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-19 23:54                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-22  2:48                                                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-22 23:33                                                     ` Drew Adams
2020-03-23  0:43                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-23 15:09                                                         ` Drew Adams
2020-03-24 21:58                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-24 22:14                                                             ` Drew Adams
2020-03-23  0:35                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-23 15:20                                                       ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-03-24 21:58                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-24 22:13                                                           ` Drew Adams
2020-03-16 15:21                             ` Drew Adams
2020-03-09 14:52                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-09 14:50               ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-09 15:22                 ` Drew Adams
2020-03-10 16:04                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-10 16:33                     ` Drew Adams
2020-03-09  9:04         ` martin rudalics
2020-03-09 15:02           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-09 15:39             ` Drew Adams
2020-03-10 16:08               ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-09 17:12             ` martin rudalics
2020-03-10 15:52               ` Michael Heerdegen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-08  8:26 Making Emacs popular again with a video Nathan Colinet
2020-05-10 20:57 ` Nathan Colinet
2020-05-12  3:12   ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-12 12:57     ` GNU Emacs raison d'etre excalamus--- via Emacs development discussions.
2020-05-13 16:18       ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-13 19:39         ` Andreas Röhler
2020-05-13 20:05           ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-13 20:52             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-13 22:04               ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-13 22:55                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-14  4:56                   ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-17  1:28                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-17  1:59                       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-18  3:43                         ` transient Richard Stallman
2020-05-18  6:58                           ` transient Joost Kremers
2020-05-18 18:41                             ` transient Howard Melman
2020-05-19  5:38                               ` transient Drew Adams
2020-05-19 14:00                                 ` transient Arthur Miller
2020-05-20  3:14                                   ` transient Michael Heerdegen
     [not found]                                     ` <87tuztngxr.fsf@mail.linkov.net>
2020-06-03  4:32                                       ` bug#39902: transient Michael Heerdegen
2020-06-03 22:49                                         ` bug#39902: 28.0.50; Marking in dired with active region Juri Linkov
2020-06-04 12:31                                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-06-04 22:18                                             ` Juri Linkov

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