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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248888 Archived-At: On 04.05.2020 20:46, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc:rms@gnu.org,emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 20:42:03 +0300 >> >> On 04.05.2020 20:35, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>>> Cc:emacs-devel@gnu.org >>>> From: Dmitry Gutov >>>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 20:12:40 +0300 >>>> >>>> On 04.05.2020 17:28, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>>>> I think it would be better to do it the other way around: make "C-h f" >>>>> look at the arguments and the first line of the doc string (and >>>>> similarly with "C-h v") >>>> Unusual behavior aside, I don't think our general completion logic will >>>> work well when input has little correlation to the completion results >>>> (function names). >>> I don't understand the response: what I wrote had no relation to >>> completion whatsoever. Maybe you responded to the wrong message? >> Not at all. >> >> 'C-h f' uses completing-read to help the user input the function they'll >> see the description for. > Yes, but that's entirely unrelated to Richard's question and to my > response. They had to do with what these command search, not how they > invoke completion of their arguments. > > Hmm... I think I see the confusion: I said "C-h f", but had "C-h a" in > mind. Sorry. Hm. You also said "and also C-h v". Which works very much like "C-h f". But for "C-h a" that can make sense, of course.