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From: Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: I wish list-buffers used my current window when it listed my buffers
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:51:43 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9b7d2080-ca36-4a37-98bd-12d9a337c048@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.447.1377040083.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>

On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:37:35 AM UTC+5:30, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Ugrading 30+ year old software is tough stuff! :)
> 
> Thank you for your understanding.
> 
> Indeed, we do make backward incompatible changes all the time, and at
> the same time we refrain from doing so.  It's a delicate balance, and
> I think there's no way to get right even for a single individual, let
> along for everyone.  We just try to minimize the overall annoyance of
> inertia and change.

:-) I remember ducking the debris from the explosions around visual-line-mode :-)

Seriously I feel biting the bullet may all-round the best solution (which includes your health and sanity!)

Something like this:

- A comprehensive list of changes is drawn up without scrimping on 'incompatible' including terminology (window/frame vs pane/window etc)
- 24 is declared as stable and supported for the next 7 years, ie minor bugs will be fixed, major functionality will not be added
- to the extent possible, converter functionality is provided to make old elisp into new
- likewise for documentation

My own prejudices: 

I am a programmer, but more a teacher of programming.
Personally it does not matter too much to me whether I press C-x or C-w to 'cut' but it matters a great deal to my students/their employers etc, so that more and more I am finding emacs a hard-sell. Hopefully you will consider that there are a thousand-fold guys like me 'at the fringes' who would give  great deal to have emacs a little more mainstream/less weird


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-21  4:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-15  2:02 I wish list-buffers used my current window when it listed my buffers Jay Cotton
2013-08-15  4:56 ` Bob Proulx
     [not found] ` <mailman.16.1376542594.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-15 12:45   ` Dan Espen
2013-08-15 23:23     ` Jay Cotton
2013-08-16 13:33       ` Michael Heerdegen
2013-08-16 13:33       ` Michael Heerdegen
2013-08-16 22:12         ` Jay Cotton
2013-08-16 23:24           ` Michael Heerdegen
     [not found]       ` <mailman.163.1376660121.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-16 14:03         ` Dan Espen
2013-08-16 22:33           ` Jay Cotton
2013-08-16 22:51             ` Bob Proulx
2013-08-16 23:38               ` Jay Cotton
2013-08-20 23:07                 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.447.1377040083.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-21  4:51                   ` Rustom Mody [this message]
2013-08-21 22:55                     ` Bob Proulx
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.532.1377125749.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-22  4:44                       ` Rustom Mody
2013-08-16 23:08             ` Michael Heerdegen
2013-08-16 23:44               ` Jay Cotton
2013-08-16 23:51               ` Jay Cotton
     [not found]             ` <mailman.210.1376693505.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-16 23:14               ` Dan Espen
2013-08-19  3:41 ` Samuel Wales
     [not found] <mailman.11.1376532793.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-15  3:42 ` Rustom Mody
2013-08-15  4:54   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-08-15  7:31     ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-08-15 12:32     ` Michael Heerdegen
2013-08-15 12:59       ` Eric Abrahamsen

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