From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rustom Mody Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: movies Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 18:55:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9b5cdb0a-0da4-4fdc-8483-996e047d4482@googlegroups.com> References: <87a9givfvt.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386039617 14187 80.91.229.3 (3 Dec 2013 03:00:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 03:00:17 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 03 04:00:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VngDm-0006au-2U for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 04:00:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39905 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VngDl-00014O-FM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 22:00:21 -0500 X-Received: by 10.182.245.197 with SMTP id xq5mr23244379obc.27.1386039319643; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 18:55:19 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.82.33 with SMTP id f1mr6973igy.0.1386039319595; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 18:55:19 -0800 (PST) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!p15no302813qaj.0!news-out.google.com!p7ni7379qat.0!nntp.google.com!p15no302798qaj.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: <87a9givfvt.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.10.127; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.10.127 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 02:55:19 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:202531 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:94800 Archived-At: On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:45:25 AM UTC+5:30, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Why isn't there a movie on RMS, GNU, and Emacs? > I'd watch it. About a month ago I shared a screenshot that someone had captured showing that when one googled for emacs, there was a sponsored ad for vi. And your response was: > Ha ha, who cares, no one clicks ads anyway. What do you > think this is, the 90s? Hey, let's trade banners and > create web rings :) I'll even add a rotating skull, and > a burning barrel! My impression is that this is the overwhelming majority view in this world: PR does not matter. IOW You want it both ways: 1. Our PR is not good enough for movie makers to be interested in us 2. PR does not matter Let me give a martial arts analogy: If you only 'mirror' (is that the word?) the opponent, you cannot win because he has first-mover advantage If you only calculate your own moves and techniques and ignore the opponent, you cant win because you will be surprised.