From: "Ami Fischman" <ami@fischman.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: crazy interaction between buffer-locality and function-locality of variables
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:59:33 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9aa0cfde0811021559l3c596ed3rc0d6c5896e275bfc@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1KwmDu-0001Hz-9b@fencepost.gnu.org>
> Is the behavior of binding function arguments variables subject to the
> locality of the current buffer at function call time intentional?
> That's a confusing way to describe things.
I intentionally described the behavior I observed in a way as
confusing as I found the behavior to be, hoping to draw attention to
the deficiency I considered in the behavior.
> The current buffer
> when the function is called has no direct effect on the function.
> What does have an effect is switching buffers within the function.
This distinction lacks a difference to me. Buffer-switching is a
standard idiom of elisp and normally considered an implementation
detail of a function, not part of its external contract. If including
buffer-switching in a function's code unbinds variables bound in that
function then that promotes the presence of buffer-switching from
implementation detail to externally-visible effect. Put another way,
a function that uses buffer-switching is always at the mercy of the
buffers in which it is invoked, to avoid making local variables with
the same names as the function's arguments or let-bound variables.
This is what I was hoping was unintentional and fixable, though you
and Stefan have now told me that it is the lesser evil (and by
implication here to stay).
> We should probably change the name of that variable in Gnus.
> to something like `gnus-timestamp'.
I have posted a request for something similar to the gnus mailing list:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67732
-a
prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-02 23:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-02 3:34 crazy interaction between buffer-locality and function-locality of variables Ami Fischman
2008-11-02 16:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-02 17:43 ` Ami Fischman
2008-11-02 20:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-02 20:31 ` crazy interaction between buffer-locality and function-localityof variables Drew Adams
2008-11-02 23:19 ` crazy interaction between buffer-locality and function-locality of variables Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-02 23:59 ` Ami Fischman [this message]
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