From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Samuel Bronson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Loading when viewing docstring of autoloaded function Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 13:20:20 -0400 Message-ID: <9FBF49AD-A067-4B27-80AA-7A2A41B85F25@gmail.com> References: <87395mgy6t.fsf@gnu.org> <784B0F307BD44CC4B673B79667EDEB25@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1341249652 26899 80.91.229.3 (2 Jul 2012 17:20:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 17:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Chong Yidong' , Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 02 19:20:51 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SlkIs-00017B-DK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 19:20:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54876 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SlkIr-0006L5-BR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:20:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36545) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SlkIf-0005rJ-Fa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:20:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SlkId-0003bj-SY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:20:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qa0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:49480) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SlkIX-0003Tq-OE; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:20:29 -0400 Original-Received: by qabg27 with SMTP id g27so2297661qab.0 for ; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 10:20:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=EDNDMtnLa0WsFItH98Lv/v/ykNPZFNgaFce6TPgnbZI=; b=RFDaf/F36Z/pHwfMCxaXOlfVbPx/Q7CVFHQ0jKsOGuzIJjiFDgKFyOENjnj3l+2raL 2czYP15E0U72EF0OFLga1attUtYFY0k+W0atBKspX+fV+qvh2XbqtMDZt4yp6EQVZ9VA JUzc1mizetagYY24cyU1QcoR8fmbk6fhSUyO3g+AKqdFjpwLEbw9igSfCzUIV0uta2vz CcqDIwTv/blwNOR5fvgDm2Ifnwg7uEJx2I0iFIy+CVDZeyIzVK7yaYG2nPuZXKRD7KEo 7ts23AStlBks/s9JVcsmjr2CJics5k8yQDhwG0lM9jx+2i2Ga1UWFzzbQOfzNYlyANPR 5Eww== Original-Received: by 10.224.59.212 with SMTP id m20mr14585246qah.35.1341249627462; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 10:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.18] (207-172-123-137.c3-0.upd-ubr1.trpr-upd.pa.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.123.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cg7sm32390619qab.19.2012.07.02.10.20.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 02 Jul 2012 10:20:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.216.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151369 Archived-At: On Jul 2, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> instances. Some packages, like it or not, do things that may be >> undesirable >> when you so much as load them. > > These are bugs that need fixing anyway. Yes, well, keep in mind that not all packages are part of Emacs, and some of their maintainers might think otherwise.