From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: gnutls for lose32 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:05:27 -0800 Message-ID: <9FAD73C934F14E418EC94F0107D5A631@us.oracle.com> References: <87aa68dfao.fsf@lifelogs.com><4F0154F1.6000002@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325531164 24204 80.91.229.12 (2 Jan 2012 19:06:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 19:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Eli Zaretskii' , 'Paul Eggert' , rms@gnu.org, nmav@gnutls.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Juanma Barranquero'" , "'Carsten Mattner'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 02 20:05:54 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RhnCj-0005HM-Fl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:05:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49963 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhnCi-0007av-Lo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:05:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60533) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhnCf-0007a6-FQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:05:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhnCe-0000Zd-FQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:05:49 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:63260) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhnCc-0000ZR-Sf; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:05:47 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id q02J5hUk001890 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 2 Jan 2012 19:05:43 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q02J5fQa025322 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Jan 2012 19:05:41 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt116.oracle.com (abhmt116.oracle.com [141.146.116.68]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q02J5dNf022396; Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:05:40 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.57.64) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:05:39 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AczJUpKLVCuCPFq7RqiPCnkuOlY63wALIJIA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.4F020008.0076,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 141.146.126.227 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147187 Archived-At: > And do not forget all the references to "MS-DOG", which I personally > find both infantile and a bit insulting. If denying any supposed > positive inference in "win32" merits such effort, fighting the > negative connotations of that particular idiomatic use of "dog" would > be even worthier, as dogs are quite wonderful creatures (recent > archaeological findings have pushed the estimated domestication of > wolves into dogs back from 12,000 to 30,000+ years, so we've been > friends time enough to start showing them some respect...). >=20 > =A0 =A0 Juanma >=20 > (Sorry: I cooperate with a rescue org specializing in saving Spanish > Greyhounds, which quite likely are the most abused breed in the world, > and see dogs disrespected and brutalized almost daily. I'm touchy in > all things dog.) Love it. I think it was the following documentary that pointed out the possibility that humans might never have moved beyond hunter-gatherer to = settled agriculture and animal domestication were it not for dogs. If true, = that's pretty important! http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/nature/dogs-decoded.html - Drew, whom no one on the Internet can tell is a dog