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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: rogers-emacs@rgrjr.dyndns.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: C-x C-v considered harmful
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:59:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9F42D4FE82BF4A69A15285955236FDF8@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1MNpkg-0005JK-LG@fencepost.gnu.org>

>     > It is somewhat dangerous _because_ it has a key binding.
> 
>     No, it was claimed that the command's behavior itself is 
>     dangerous, which means regardless of how it is called.
> 
> Practically speaking, it is only dangerous because of the key binding.
> If people had to run it with M-x, they would not type it by habit,
> so it would not cause a problem.

What you say is true of `kill-buffer' also. And `kill-buffer' presents exactly
the same problem reported: it does not warn you that you will lose data in a
`*shell*' buffer you kill.

Whether that problem is important is another question. But that is the problem
the OP reported. `find-alternate-file and `kill-buffer' are in exactly the same
boat. `find-alternate-file' is in this boat simply because it calls
`kill-buffer'. `kill-buffer' is what is problematic.

The solution is to make `kill-buffer' DTRT, either by improving its test (which
is currently just for a modified file buffer) or by letting users customize that
test.





  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-06 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-02  1:18 C-x C-v considered harmful Bob Rogers
2009-07-02  2:39 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-02  3:10   ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-02  6:48   ` Kevin Rodgers
2009-07-02 15:17     ` Drew Adams
2009-07-03  1:09       ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-03  3:19         ` Drew Adams
2009-07-03 20:33           ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-03 22:23             ` Drew Adams
2009-07-04 23:16               ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-05  7:13                 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-06  0:39                   ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-06  1:40                     ` Drew Adams
2009-07-07 10:39                       ` Johan Bockgård
2009-07-05 10:18                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-05 14:56                   ` Drew Adams
2009-07-05  0:05               ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-05  7:10                 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-06 15:05                   ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-06 15:59                     ` Drew Adams [this message]
2009-07-07 10:05                       ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-06 12:04                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2009-07-06 23:49                 ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-07  1:07                   ` Drew Adams
2009-07-08  0:32                     ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-08 23:28                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-09 16:09                         ` Drew Adams
2009-07-09 22:10                           ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-09 22:26                             ` Drew Adams
2009-07-09 22:46                               ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-09 23:21                                 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-10  4:05                                   ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-13 20:05                         ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-16 21:57                           ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-03  2:40       ` M Jared Finder
2009-07-03  2:57         ` Miles Bader
2009-07-03 19:23         ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-03 20:07           ` Andreas Schwab
2009-07-03 20:56           ` Miles Bader
2009-07-03 13:55     ` Markus Triska
2009-07-05 22:15       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-05 22:42         ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-11 10:06           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-14  2:45             ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-14 18:34               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-02 21:03 ` Stefan Monnier

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