From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12406: 24.2.50; frame parameter `menu-bar-lines' and `menu-bar-mode' Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:05:57 -0700 Message-ID: <9F2CC237A7D44E1AAA9000F1C6B72180@us.oracle.com> References: <54FF7233AE2E4AF39FEC5B688D67341E@us.oracle.com><50504320.7030908@gmx.at><95E595BA09D247A9BD45F52A304A471B@us.oracle.com><5050A571.3060809@gmx.at><2642D1C71B064D30A09DABF179962841@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347509178 4347 80.91.229.3 (13 Sep 2012 04:06:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 04:06:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12406@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 13 06:06:22 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TC0h3-0004q5-PJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 13 Sep 2012 04:06:01 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt116.oracle.com (abhmt116.oracle.com [141.146.116.68]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q8D460qC020798; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:06:00 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:06:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2RXkciwAdhs8khQWGg6GTwjxQQxAABqu7w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:64222 Archived-At: > >> Because this way we'd have a consistent interface: The > >> presence of a frame parameter would signal "leave this > >> frame alone". > > > > That's inconsistent with the convention that absence of a frame > > parameter is equivalent to its presence with a nil value. It is > > similar to proposing that we give some special signification to the > > absense of a key in an alist, as opposed to a key with value nil. > > Agreed. That means, all frames should have a `menu-bar-lines' > parameter, set to `default' in most of them. Sounds reasonable. The devil might be in the details of what you want to do with/about it. But yes, that sounds like a start.