* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi) [not found] <mailman.108.1223009092.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2008-10-03 5:46 ` Livin Stephen 2008-10-03 6:42 ` zoltan 2008-10-04 21:11 ` How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E " Rodolfo Medina 2008-10-10 21:49 ` Joe Casadonte 2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Livin Stephen @ 2008-10-03 5:46 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs On Oct 3, 3:11 am, "David Lam" <david.k.l...@gmail.com> wrote: >... > i saw this...http://www.wlindley.com/gnu/vi and in the first two rows > theres no listed equivalent > ... David, C-v is how you scroll one-page-at-a-time, so with numerical arguments ( "C-u 1" [ or "Cu -1" ] ), here is how I would do it: C-u 1 C-v for "up", and C-u -1 C-v for "down" . I don't know *any* lisp, so if I found myself wanting to do this a lot, I would probably create a macro and setup a key-binding. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi) 2008-10-03 5:46 ` How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi) Livin Stephen @ 2008-10-03 6:42 ` zoltan 2008-10-03 14:20 ` How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (theC-E " Parker, Matthew 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: zoltan @ 2008-10-03 6:42 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs On Oct 3, 7:46 am, Livin Stephen <livin.step...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 3, 3:11 am, "David Lam" <david.k.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >... > > i saw this...http://www.wlindley.com/gnu/vi and in the first two rows > > theres no listed equivalent > > ... > > David, > C-v is how you scroll one-page-at-a-time, so with numerical arguments > ( "C-u 1" [ or "Cu -1" ] ), > here is how I would do it: > > C-u 1 C-v for "up", and > C-u -1 C-v for "down" . > > I don't know *any* lisp, > so if I found myself wanting to do this a lot, > I would probably create a macro and setup a key-binding. You can also use M-v to scroll up. And C-M-v to scroll down the next buffer ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* RE: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (theC-E and C-Y keys in vi) 2008-10-03 6:42 ` zoltan @ 2008-10-03 14:20 ` Parker, Matthew 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Parker, Matthew @ 2008-10-03 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw To: zoltan, help-gnu-emacs This might not be the most elegant... but it works... and I think it is what you have in mind... Add these to .emacs, and try Control-Alt-n or p ;; Navigation Functions (defun scroll-up-by-one-line() "scroll ahead one line at a time" (interactive) (scroll-up 1)) (defun scroll-down-by-one-line() "scroll ahead one line at a time" (interactive) (scroll-down 1)) ;; key bindings (global-set-key "\C-\M-n" 'scroll-up-by-one-line) (global-set-key "\C-\M-p" 'scroll-down-by-one-line) Matthew Parker SEI | 1 Freedom Valley Drive | Oaks, PA 19456 | p: 610-676-1279 | f: 484-676-1279 | www.seic.com -----Original Message----- From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+mparker=seic.com@gnu.org [mailto:help-gnu-emacs-bounces+mparker=seic.com@gnu.org] On Behalf Of zoltan Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:43 AM To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (theC-E and C-Y keys in vi) On Oct 3, 7:46 am, Livin Stephen <livin.step...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 3, 3:11 am, "David Lam" <david.k.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >... > > i saw this...http://www.wlindley.com/gnu/vi and in the first two rows > > theres no listed equivalent > > ... > > David, > C-v is how you scroll one-page-at-a-time, so with numerical arguments > ( "C-u 1" [ or "Cu -1" ] ), > here is how I would do it: > > C-u 1 C-v for "up", and > C-u -1 C-v for "down" . > > I don't know *any* lisp, > so if I found myself wanting to do this a lot, > I would probably create a macro and setup a key-binding. You can also use M-v to scroll up. And C-M-v to scroll down the next buffer ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi) [not found] <mailman.108.1223009092.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2008-10-03 5:46 ` How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi) Livin Stephen @ 2008-10-04 21:11 ` Rodolfo Medina 2008-10-04 22:58 ` Rupert Swarbrick 2008-10-10 21:49 ` Joe Casadonte 2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Rodolfo Medina @ 2008-10-04 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs ...how do you scroll the screen without moving point, also in the sense that you do, say, five times C-v and then five times M-v and find the cursor in the *same* place as it was before the first C-v...? I found two packages that do that: pager.el and scroll-in-place.el, but the side unwished effect is that the `next-screen-context-lines' stops working properly in TeX and info buffers: you don't have any more the two default lines of continuity when scrolling by screenfuls, but less, and variable. Anyone met the same problem? Rodolfo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi) 2008-10-04 21:11 ` How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E " Rodolfo Medina @ 2008-10-04 22:58 ` Rupert Swarbrick 2008-10-05 10:48 ` Rodolfo Medina 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Rupert Swarbrick @ 2008-10-04 22:58 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 771 bytes --] Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> writes: > ...how do you scroll the screen without moving point, also in the > sense that you do, say, five times C-v and then five times M-v and > find the cursor in the *same* place as it was before the first C-v...? > I'm afraid I don't actually know the answer to this question (although I'm sure there will be one). I was also slightly suprised when reading it that this had never irritated me. But then I realised what I do: Before starting to scroll, I hit C-Space to set a mark. Then I wander round the file to my hearts content, not even necessarily returning to where I started before hitting C-u C-Space and being back and with point "unmoved". Maybe this is a useful different way of solving your problem. Rupert [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 314 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi) 2008-10-04 22:58 ` Rupert Swarbrick @ 2008-10-05 10:48 ` Rodolfo Medina 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Rodolfo Medina @ 2008-10-05 10:48 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> writes: > ...how do you scroll the screen without moving point, also in the sense that > you do, say, five times C-v and then five times M-v and find the cursor in the > *same* place as it was before the first C-v...? > > I found two packages that do that: pager.el and scroll-in-place.el, but the > side unwished effect is that the `next-screen-context-lines' stops working > properly in TeX and info buffers: you don't have any more the two default > lines of continuity when scrolling by screenfuls, but less, and variable. > > Anyone met the same problem? Rupert Swarbrick <rswarbrick@gmail.com> writes: > I'm afraid I don't actually know the answer to this question (although > I'm sure there will be one). I was also slightly suprised when reading > it that this had never irritated me. > > But then I realised what I do: Before starting to scroll, I hit C-Space > to set a mark. Then I wander round the file to my hearts content, not > even necessarily returning to where I started before hitting C-u C-Space > and being back and with point "unmoved". > > Maybe this is a useful different way of solving your problem. Hey, that's great! Thanks Rodolfo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi) [not found] <mailman.108.1223009092.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2008-10-03 5:46 ` How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi) Livin Stephen 2008-10-04 21:11 ` How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E " Rodolfo Medina @ 2008-10-10 21:49 ` Joe Casadonte 2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Joe Casadonte @ 2008-10-10 21:49 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs I wrote these years ago; maybe they will help? (defun scroll-in-place (scroll-up) "Scroll window up (or down) without moving point (if possible). SCROLL-Up is non-nil to scroll up one line, nil to scroll down." (interactive) (let ((pos (point)) (col (current-column)) (up-or-down (if scroll-up 1 -1))) (scroll-up up-or-down) (if (pos-visible-in-window-p pos) (goto-char pos) (if (or (eq last-command 'next-line) (eq last-command 'previous-line)) (move-to-column temporary-goal-column) (move-to-column col) (setq temporary-goal-column col)) (setq this-command 'next-line)))) ;;;; ------------------------------------------------------------------------ (defun scroll-up-in-place () "Scroll window up without moving point (if possible)." (interactive) (scroll-in-place t)) ;;;; ------------------------------------------------------------------------ (defun scroll-down-in-place () "Scroll window up without moving point (if possible)." (interactive) (scroll-in-place nil)) (global-set-key (read-kbd-macro "M-<down>") 'scroll-up-in-place) (global-set-key (read-kbd-macro "M-<up>") 'scroll-down-in-place) -- Regards, joe Joe Casadonte jcasadonte@northbound-train.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Llama Fresh Farms => http://www.northbound-train.com Ramblings of a Gay Man => http://www.northbound-train.com/ramblings Emacs Stuff => http://www.northbound-train.com/emacs.html Music CD Trading => http://www.northbound-train.com/cdr.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Free, that's the message! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (theC-E and C-Y keys in vi) [not found] <mailman.142.1223043676.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2008-10-03 15:31 ` Chris McMahan 2008-10-03 16:09 ` Paul R [not found] ` <mailman.153.1223050175.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Chris McMahan @ 2008-10-03 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs If that's not what you have in mind, I've been using these for some time. They keep the cursor in place and move the text underneath it. (defun scroll-down-in-place (n) (interactive "p") (previous-line n) (scroll-down n)) (defun scroll-up-in-place (n) (interactive "p") (next-line n) (scroll-up n)) (global-set-key "\M-n" 'scroll-up-in-place) (global-set-key "\M-p" 'scroll-down-in-place) - Chris "Parker, Matthew" <MParker@seic.com> writes: > This might not be the most elegant... but it works... and I think it is what you have in mind... > > Add these to .emacs, and try Control-Alt-n or p > > ;; Navigation Functions > (defun scroll-up-by-one-line() > "scroll ahead one line at a time" > (interactive) > (scroll-up 1)) > > > (defun scroll-down-by-one-line() > "scroll ahead one line at a time" > (interactive) > (scroll-down 1)) > > ;; key bindings > > (global-set-key "\C-\M-n" 'scroll-up-by-one-line) > (global-set-key "\C-\M-p" 'scroll-down-by-one-line) > > > Matthew Parker > > SEI | 1 Freedom Valley Drive | Oaks, PA 19456 | p: 610-676-1279 | f: 484-676-1279 | www.seic.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+mparker=seic.com@gnu.org [mailto:help-gnu-emacs-bounces+mparker=seic.com@gnu.org] On Behalf Of zoltan > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:43 AM > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (theC-E and C-Y keys in vi) > > On Oct 3, 7:46 am, Livin Stephen <livin.step...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Oct 3, 3:11 am, "David Lam" <david.k.l...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >... >> > i saw this...http://www.wlindley.com/gnu/vi and in the first two rows >> > theres no listed equivalent >> > ... >> >> David, >> C-v is how you scroll one-page-at-a-time, so with numerical arguments >> ( "C-u 1" [ or "Cu -1" ] ), >> here is how I would do it: >> >> C-u 1 C-v for "up", and >> C-u -1 C-v for "down" . >> >> I don't know *any* lisp, >> so if I found myself wanting to do this a lot, >> I would probably create a macro and setup a key-binding. > > You can also use M-v to scroll up. > And C-M-v to scroll down the next buffer > > -- (. .) =ooO=(_)=Ooo===================================== Chris McMahan | first_initiallastname@one.dot.net ================================================= ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (theC-E and C-Y keys in vi) 2008-10-03 15:31 ` How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (theC-E " Chris McMahan @ 2008-10-03 16:09 ` Paul R [not found] ` <mailman.153.1223050175.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Paul R @ 2008-10-03 16:09 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs Chris> If that's not what you have in mind, I've been using these for Chris> some time. They keep the cursor in place and move the text Chris> underneath it. Chris> (defun scroll-down-in-place (n) (interactive "p") Chris> (previous-line n) (scroll-down n)) Chris> (defun scroll-up-in-place (n) (interactive "p") (next-line n) Chris> (scroll-up n)) To avoid weird behaviour when seeing ends of your buffer, use the code below. (global-set-key [down] (lambda () (interactive) (next-line 1) (unless (eq (window-end) (point-max)) (scroll-up 1)))) (global-set-key [up] (lambda () (interactive) (previous-line 1) (unless (eq (window-start) (point-min)) (scroll-down 1)))) -- Paul ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (theC-E and C-Y keys in vi) [not found] ` <mailman.153.1223050175.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2008-10-03 20:07 ` Chris McMahan 2008-10-04 0:57 ` David Lam 2008-10-04 9:03 ` Paul R 2008-10-04 21:24 ` Livin Stephen 1 sibling, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Chris McMahan @ 2008-10-03 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs Paul R <paul.r.ml@gmail.com> writes: > Chris> If that's not what you have in mind, I've been using these for > Chris> some time. They keep the cursor in place and move the text > Chris> underneath it. > > Chris> (defun scroll-down-in-place (n) (interactive "p") > Chris> (previous-line n) (scroll-down n)) > > Chris> (defun scroll-up-in-place (n) (interactive "p") (next-line n) > Chris> (scroll-up n)) > > To avoid weird behaviour when seeing ends of your buffer, use the code > below. > > (global-set-key [down] (lambda () > (interactive) > (next-line 1) > (unless (eq (window-end) (point-max)) > (scroll-up 1)))) > (global-set-key [up] (lambda () > (interactive) > (previous-line 1) > (unless (eq (window-start) (point-min)) > (scroll-down 1)))) Excellent! Thank you! BTW, where can I get info on the key syntax you're using? [down] and [up]... - Chris -- (. .) =ooO=(_)=Ooo===================================== Chris McMahan | first_initiallastname@one.dot.net ================================================= ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (theC-E and C-Y keys in vi) 2008-10-03 20:07 ` Chris McMahan @ 2008-10-04 0:57 ` David Lam 2008-10-04 9:03 ` Paul R 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: David Lam @ 2008-10-04 0:57 UTC (permalink / raw To: Chris McMahan; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1678 bytes --] aww cool thanks... i just tried the stuffs this is what i ended up with -> ;; ^E in Vi (defun ctrl-e-in-vi (n) (interactive "p") (scroll-down n)) ;; ^Y in Vi (defun ctrl-y-in-vi (n) (interactive "p") (scroll-up n)) (global-set-key "\M-n" 'ctrl-y-in-vi) (global-set-key "\M-p" 'ctrl-e-in-vi) On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Chris McMahan < first_initiallastname@one.dot.net> wrote: > Paul R <paul.r.ml@gmail.com> writes: > > > Chris> If that's not what you have in mind, I've been using these for > > Chris> some time. They keep the cursor in place and move the text > > Chris> underneath it. > > > > Chris> (defun scroll-down-in-place (n) (interactive "p") > > Chris> (previous-line n) (scroll-down n)) > > > > Chris> (defun scroll-up-in-place (n) (interactive "p") (next-line n) > > Chris> (scroll-up n)) > > > > To avoid weird behaviour when seeing ends of your buffer, use the code > > below. > > > > (global-set-key [down] (lambda () > > (interactive) > > (next-line 1) > > (unless (eq (window-end) (point-max)) > > (scroll-up 1)))) > > (global-set-key [up] (lambda () > > (interactive) > > (previous-line 1) > > (unless (eq (window-start) (point-min)) > > (scroll-down 1)))) > > Excellent! Thank you! > > BTW, where can I get info on the key syntax you're using? [down] and > [up]... > > - Chris > > -- > (. .) > =ooO=(_)=Ooo===================================== > Chris McMahan | first_initiallastname@one.dot.net > ================================================= > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3087 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (theC-E and C-Y keys in vi) 2008-10-03 20:07 ` Chris McMahan 2008-10-04 0:57 ` David Lam @ 2008-10-04 9:03 ` Paul R 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Paul R @ 2008-10-04 9:03 UTC (permalink / raw To: Chris McMahan; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:07:24 -0400, Chris McMahan <first_initiallastname@one.dot.net> said: Chris> BTW, where can I get info on the key syntax you're using? Chris> [down] and [up]... In emacs documentation, look for "key bindings". Also, if you want an in-depth review of emacs-all-flavour-all-versions key bindings syntax, read this good ressource : http://tiny-tools.sourceforge.net/emacs-keys.html -- Paul ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (theC-E and C-Y keys in vi) [not found] ` <mailman.153.1223050175.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2008-10-03 20:07 ` Chris McMahan @ 2008-10-04 21:24 ` Livin Stephen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Livin Stephen @ 2008-10-04 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs On Oct 3, 9:09 pm, Paul R <paul.r...@gmail.com> wrote: > Chris> If that's not what you have in mind, I've been using these for > Chris> some time. They keep the cursor in place and move the text > Chris> underneath it. > > Chris> (defun scroll-down-in-place (n) (interactive "p") > Chris> (previous-line n) (scroll-down n)) > > Chris> (defun scroll-up-in-place (n) (interactive "p") (next-line n) > Chris> (scroll-up n)) > > To avoid weird behaviour when seeing ends of your buffer, use the code > below. > > (global-set-key [down] (lambda () > (interactive) > (next-line 1) > (unless (eq (window-end) (point-max)) > (scroll-up 1)))) > (global-set-key [up] (lambda () > (interactive) > (previous-line 1) > (unless (eq (window-start) (point-min)) > (scroll-down 1)))) > > -- > Paul The initial request from David Lam was for scrolling-in-place such that the cursor remained "in place" with respect to the text - not with respect to the frame/window. In VI, C-e (C-y is the counterpart), 1. scrolls the page up by line, AND 2. moves the up cursor ALSO by one line - so that it stays at the same character at which it was originally. In the lisp examples (thanks for them!), I commented out "(previous- line 1)" and "(next-line 1)" to achieve this. I *do* also like what your original lisp samples do. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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