From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: german umlauts vs. meta key Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:50:38 +0100 Message-ID: <9B783FDA-D836-42F9-A9B9-B7B72C491CB1@Web.DE> References: <87r6ewqk6v.fsf@hfph.mwn.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204300286 22333 80.91.229.12 (29 Feb 2008 15:51:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Andreas Goesele Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 29 16:51:51 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JV7WL-0001f4-CJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:51:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JV7Vo-0000s7-WE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:51:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JV7VY-0000pY-1A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:50:48 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JV7VV-0000ow-HN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:50:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JV7VV-0000ot-D1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:50:45 -0500 Original-Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de ([217.72.192.227]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JV7VU-0005ZC-Qn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:50:45 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AB7D2C98CA; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:50:43 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [195.4.206.39] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.109 #226) id 1JV7VQ-0003Gg-00; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:50:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87r6ewqk6v.fsf@hfph.mwn.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX191rFgDNuUkz+IPZYHxTqg1sk+jRrhaCvJlRdMX GDSVmYDDjGIvF6lAjrtxBQO9SUuUjd/zV4cTop4/sSvJWEdLk9 SOBWg1Y2d4TjqX0ZRIAA== X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:51971 Archived-At: Am 29.02.2008 um 08:46 schrieb Andreas Goesele: > I'm in the process of moving from XEmacs to Emacs, but I encountered a > problem: Which prehistoric version of GNU Emacs are you trying to use? Up-to-=20 date version 22.1 accepts German umlauts directly from the keyboard, =20 it even can handle Unicode. No particular input method is needed. And =20= the URL you gave is out of time, part of a museum. You could try this behaviour by launching GNU Emacs with the -Q =20 argument. Then no init will be loaded and you could insert whatever =20 you want directly into the *scratch* buffer, for example. You might =20 also think of customising X11 such that your keyboard emits =20 particular characters (=80 for example) when holding the alt key. So in =20= case you're using a keyboard with an US layout, alt-# or such could =20 produce =E4. Modern Emacsen read the environment variable LC_CTYPE and try to =20 setup a preference for a particular encoding default, for example ISO =20= 8859-15 or UTF-8. > Another explanation of the problem I found is that under the console > C-s disables input and C-q reenables it - which indeed is the case, > but doesn't make much sense under a xterminal, does it? (XEmacs does > not interpret C-s and C-q this way.) How can it? It's the terminal that steals the input event which was =20 passed to it via X11. If the terminal emulation has no use for a =20 certain input it passes it further to some shell interpreter or =20 programme running in it. ^S/^Q are part of the software handshake. Just switch it off with stty! With Gnu Emacs from CVS (version 23.0.60) you can make use of the =20 multi-tty patch: one GNU Emacs client is running in X11, Emacs server =20= started, and in every terminal window you can have access to GNU =20 Emacs by invoking 'emacsclient -t'. In Mac OS X (partly FreeBSD =20 based) this give *me* a problem when I isearch for a German umlaut in =20= a file's name: HFS+ saves it decomposed, i.e. I would need to search =20 for o=A8 instead of =F6, or such ... -- Mit friedvollen Gr=FC=DFen Pete Got Mole problems? Call Avogadro 6.02 x 10^23