From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Requena Zabala Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: W32 with native scroll bars woes Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 00:04:12 +0100 Message-ID: <9B7513AE176AE5429921DB50D54FD2FC03AB27D7@MAILBOX.GAM.LOCAL> References: <9B7513AE176AE5429921DB50D54FD2FC03AB2556@MAILBOX.GAM.LOCAL> <83h9vmy75d.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1421708684 3558 80.91.229.3 (19 Jan 2015 23:04:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 23:04:44 +0000 (UTC) To: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 20 00:04:40 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YDLNA-0004QZ-2N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 00:04:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40162 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YDLN9-00025o-4t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 18:04:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37484) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YDLMt-00025d-Pb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 18:04:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YDLMq-0006Nj-Bv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 18:04:23 -0500 Original-Received: from cme-staticip-212-89-9-21.telecable.es ([212.89.9.21]:46089 helo=correo.gamalquiler.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YDLMq-0006N7-4Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 18:04:20 -0500 Original-Received: from MAILBOX.GAM.LOCAL ([0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0.0.0.1]) by GAMEXCHCA01.GAM.LOCAL ([172.16.13.64]) with mapi; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 00:04:15 +0100 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Thread-Topic: W32 with native scroll bars woes Thread-Index: AdA0ExFbWgyCxDwNSr2QZLHuBmanpAAKOAiQ In-Reply-To: <83h9vmy75d.fsf@gnu.org> Accept-Language: es-ES Content-Language: es-ES X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: es-ES x-kse-antivirus-interceptor-info: protection disabled X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows NT kernel [generic] X-Received-From: 212.89.9.21 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181453 Archived-At: Many thanks for a prompt response. Seems though that my point didn't get through very well... > Scroll bars are supported on Windows and do work. I can build a non-crashing emacs, with abhorrent windows scroll bars, any d= ay of the week. Or download a pre-built binary for that matter. I do want scroll bars, just emacs own "native scroll bars" (counter intuiti= ve emacs speak, not mine). Those are much less obtrusive, customizable and = work well for analog indication of current position on the buffer. To that effect, on some platforms you can configure with '--without-toolkit= -scroll-bars'. Doing so on NextStep/OSX gives an error: "Non-toolkit scroll bars are not = implemented for Nextstep." The same on a w32 build merrily builds a broken binary with no configure er= ror whatsoever. If that is ok or not remains for you, devs, to judge. Question stands: is it currently possible, in any way, to get *emacs native= scroll bars* in w32 emacs? We had those in the past. If not, I'm willing to look into this myself, if this was confined to some = specific areas of the C language part of emacs sources. I could of course u= se some directions as to where to look at.. Best regards PD: sorry if you get this twice. My fault. David Requena Zabala Comunicaciones Internacional Tel: 985 732 273 Fax: C/ Dinamarca, n=BA19, 2=BA, Pol. Ind. Esp=EDritu Santo 33010 Oviedo Asturias drequena@gamalquiler.com http://www.gamalquiler.com/ Visite nuestra web de venta http://www.gamusado.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________= ______ P Tenga en cuenta las consecuencias para el medio ambiente antes de imprimi= r este mensaje. 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