From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: enabled commands should go into custom-file Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:11:09 +0100 Message-ID: <9AFBC88B-E3BB-44DC-862F-53B44F66987B@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1121174875 20174 80.91.229.2 (12 Jul 2005 13:27:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:27:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 12 15:27:52 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DsKmM-0006nl-A1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:26:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DsKnz-0005wP-4u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:28:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DsKms-0005Xm-NR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DsKmI-0005Ow-Fe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:26:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DsKmE-0005Ek-Hu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:26:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.206] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DsKfr-0005ph-M4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:19:47 -0400 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1106676wra for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 06:11:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=kaVhyCBbVIyiA18Oc53WleDewAkLpGqDoE4oGQq6H/PDMlMIIfRA4ksWt8GiCihgsBXeZzuhygaO1C1H/SA930xXE++ECdFTfYQAMSBYkgEZUeqsQjBFwdjuIcR/DyZ75Z9LYz294bFcIMl1Xm32HjvtPi0pubDWWupCG3iduYw= Original-Received: by 10.54.44.7 with SMTP id r7mr4425917wrr; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 06:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ?129.215.174.81? ([129.215.174.81]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 7sm221402wrl.2005.07.12.06.11.12; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 06:11:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Original-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien_Kirche?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40833 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40833 On 12 Jul 2005, at 10:32, S=E9bastien Kirche wrote: > My .emacs is often and highly modified by hand and I don't =20 > like any > automatic modification thus I defined custom-file so that the =20 > customize > interface will have its own configuration file to play with. I second that. .emacs (or whatever is defined) should be left untouched. custom-file is what it is for. The fact that both are the same by default hides issues like that. Also, it might make sense to reevaluate such supposedly confusing =20 commands. I was more confused by the novice-question - after all I typed M-x =20 upcase-region, and it did what I expected. I suppose the only thing that could be confusing is if it is bound to =20= some simple key combination. But it times of Undo, is something like this novice lock still =20 sensible for something like upcase-region?