From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11566: 24.0.97; `read-from-minibuffer': focus to standalone minibuffer frame? Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:10:15 -0700 Message-ID: <9A9A32EAE9D64B438EDA74E1F3F488FE@us.oracle.com> References: <6A40227DCFBF427491B710A473E45744@us.oracle.com> <4FC22A8D.6040801@gmx.at> <8D43F91B0096402A9BCA59FE13513358@us.oracle.com> <4FC49A24.7000403@gmx.at> <96A3CCDD100E49C6ACF2739484C9239A@us.oracle.com> <838vgb2dr1.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1338307918 11200 80.91.229.3 (29 May 2012 16:11:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 16:11:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11566@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 29 18:11:57 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SZP1Y-0005qU-L2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 18:11:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53981 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZP1Y-0002QA-B0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 12:11:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35330) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZP1M-0002Jw-1J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 12:11:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZP1G-0008Bz-IP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 12:11:43 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39054) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZP1G-0008Bt-F9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 12:11:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZP2b-0008Q8-TJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 12:13:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 16:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11566 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11566-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11566.133830792732296 (code B ref 11566); Tue, 29 May 2012 16:13:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 May 2012 16:12:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48599 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZP1i-0008Or-9x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 12:12:06 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:21433) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZP1e-0008OB-3r for 11566@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 12:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q4TGAVda032068 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 29 May 2012 16:10:31 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4TGAUnP013415 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 May 2012 16:10:31 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt115.oracle.com (abhmt115.oracle.com [141.146.116.67]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q4TGAUZ4012582; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:10:30 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.177.8) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:10:30 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <838vgb2dr1.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac09sfAUC3TMTAAORImbMwLH1PBGxgAAvQlw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:60466 Archived-At: > "Stacking order" and "foreground" are 2 different things. As I wrote > earlier, a "foreground" window/frame is the window that has focus and > gets the keyboard input. It doesn't have to be on the top of the > Z-order. Got it. > > > (let ((old-frame (selected-frame)) > > > (new-frame (make-frame))) > > > (redirect-frame-focus new-frame old-frame)) > > > > That puts (keeps) the input focus in old-frame. So it > > seems to work as it should. > > No, it keeps focus in new-frame, but makes it so the input you type at > new-frame gets sent to old-frame. Hm. Maybe I'm unclear about "focus". To me, "focus" was about input focus: the focused frame is the one that accepts/receives keyboard input. In something like `select-frame-set-input-focus', my interpretation was that frame selection was related to the border highlighting and setting input focus was related to receiving keyboard input. AFAIK, `select-frame' does the former, but `select-frame-set-input-focus' is needed to get the latter. > Thus, this: > > > (But new-frame has its title and border highlighted as if > > it had the focus. Somehow there is a disconnect between the two. > > is normal and expected behavior (AFAIU). Expected from `redirect-frame-focus', I guess you mean. So IIUC, `select-frame-set-input-focus' does `select-frame' plus `redirect-frame-focus'?