From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: line-line-move-visual: was line motion problem Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:58:41 -0400 Message-ID: <9A58CF7B-111D-4EDA-BAAD-2E197FAF698A@gmail.com> References: <18557.63556.231489.523637@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <5F62534C-D5CE-4364-8F73-E1AE0D61B4E2@gmail.com> <87abghlqs2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87hcap3ct7.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87mykg84aj.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200807181530.m6IFUHVp029662@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <06ED973A-F762-4586-9913-37B3622C8644@gmail.com> <48851632.5030302@ig.com.br> <873am2902l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <48853ED7.8040301@ig.com.br> <4AF32E83-4754-4672-B54B-EDDA88B7AD2A@gmail.com> <48868EFC.1050906@ig.com.br> <02F161D8-0202-4AAF-9A5E-7E281F8852D3@gmail.com> <4886A342.5090205@ig.com.br> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-14-132836590; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216810907 9683 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2008 11:01:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:01:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , raman@users.sourceforge.net, Dan Nicolaescu , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader To: Vinicius Jose Latorre Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 23 13:02:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLc77-00077x-DB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:02:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48583 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLc6D-0002eG-T3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:01:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLc3W-00028R-TO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:58:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLc3U-00027d-Sz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:58:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36360 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLc3U-00027W-Hm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:58:48 -0400 Original-Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.182]:29685) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLc3T-0004RO-UZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:58:48 -0400 Original-Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id p76so1194637pyb.1 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:58:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=/NkgD4nmj7ouvBEnSF9Brzl/MOE9YoX7pBnracSkX4A=; b=RHZC7hqBjFh8/6voz5tmpJE+ZNXkmWg0OobSM/Ef5GYfQqZN1gF3wMYiM2nL0pxdN3 j917nmJbYlDA1fp8tdK86jyvPJeDM7XvCvbuqrjTC9pc5FRmqWhAbs8aOLrjBWDMeVZd iXUj7W2g3dhfpPo225V6yHYqVVt0EdDUJFRQA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=BfwKS2Qx+5bdqnlf9nT9CibB5NyomX+vK0ImOtQdtNoha3ODlnwdD8PmgveTlKSTsf TuDz6U7YsYxKSWPdTj8z1OZxzVUMVWD0EvY0L8vFlHA6y0qTQbaN1l1omCZA1G3MpYDS VrfoDAD5+dQb6VYAc4bcKlvBXlFFWZsId0RiA= Original-Received: by 10.64.178.5 with SMTP id a5mr8539042qbf.31.1216810727209; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ?172.19.190.95? ( [204.94.250.71]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a48sm6159759pyh.36.2008.07.23.03.58.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:58:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4886A342.5090205@ig.com.br> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101305 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail-14-132836590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 22 Jul 2008, at 23:19, Vinicius Jose Latorre wrote: > > Well, the current defaults are sensible. > > There was a discussion about whitespace settings before whitespace > was accepted as part of Emacs. > > When I said that I also prefer pilcrow, I was expressing my > preference, but this is not the consensus about these settings. The weird color combination makes perfect sense for whitespace-mode, but not to just mark paragraphs as a regularly enabled function. There, the paragraph marks would have to be a lot less conspicuous. Perhaps the show-newlines-mode is really something that needs to be implemented more separately from whitespace.el or at least whitespace- mode. 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