From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexandre Garreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 09:51:00 +0100 Message-ID: <99699276.HRL26mjmsB@galex-713.eu> References: <76ELNPlqeS-R0duKEBkNllnzbj3EjMsMqpjwaKRsDVQKGXcfY4PoIkJNWZfcHOoGMf4gBXzOjHkFtyMwnhQQdRfy1MXk4IAUonRzGplBHjA=@protonmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34554"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacsq To: emacsq via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 27 09:52:59 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nOFIX-0008op-Hh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 09:52:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42526 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOFIW-0003VL-2i for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:52:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55612) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOFGk-0003VC-0M for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:51:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a00:5884:8305::1] (port=40786 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOFGh-00026D-PW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:51:05 -0500 Original-Received: from gal by galex-713.eu with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nOFGe-00C9Qw-SZ; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 09:51:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: <76ELNPlqeS-R0duKEBkNllnzbj3EjMsMqpjwaKRsDVQKGXcfY4PoIkJNWZfcHOoGMf4gBXzOjHkFtyMwnhQQdRfy1MXk4IAUonRzGplBHjA=@protonmail.com> X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a00:5884:8305::1 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:5884:8305::1; envelope-from=galex-713@galex-713.eu; helo=galex-713.eu X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136242 Archived-At: Le diman=C4=89o, 27-a de februaro 2022, 4-a horo kaj 25:03 CET emacsq a =C3= =A9crit : > > I don't think it's a good idea to have *any* country use such > > software. >=20 > Somewhere some developer will always take the money to write such > software, especially if it pays well, and there will always be rogue > regimes using this software. >=20 > Like people working in other professions developers are not saints > either. I=E2=80=99m under the impression that it takes more than =C2=ABsome=C2=BB d= eveloper to develop such=20 complex and crucial software=E2=80=A6 Also it usually base on deep neural networks hence requiring very massive t= raining=20 input, which to be collected actually requires action from even more many p= eople, so=20 it=E2=80=99s even easier to stop if there is appropriate collective actions= (but that requires stop=20 sharing faces in public (which is less convenient) and centralized services= (which is=20 nowadays made difficult))