From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: "16196@debbugs.gnu.org" <16196@debbugs.gnu.org>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: bug#16196: 24.3.50; Disable ding when scrolling
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 10:17:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <993d78c4-f434-f334-8dfe-3c5ca3a07874@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkm=GaGd1N_Kr5EpJC21D4trwkt-+XmqOwDRhVhy8XBzZBQ@mail.gmail.com>
>> > To make it easier to review, I've also included a git diff
>> > ignoring whitespace changes.
>>
>> This one doesn't apply here.
>
> Sorry, I should've been more clear. This is the same as the patch but
> without the whitespace changes. Please try applying the patch
> instead. Thanks.
I obviously did that (otherwise I would have complained about the
patch in the first place) ;-)
>> AFAIAC it's an improvement. But personally, I'd drop the message as
>> well. Does anyone really need it?
>
> I'm personally prone to agree with you, but the reasoning in the previous
> discussion in this thread seems to be that we do want it. Or at least
> something similar.
>
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>
>> the general design of Emacs is that
>> we strive to make every command perform *something*, so when the user's
>> request ends up doing nothing, we signal an error to make it clear that
>> Emacs did obey the request. Otherwise the lack of feedback can make the
>> user feel like Emacs is unresponsive.
>
> And later:
>
>> I'd rather keep some kind of feedback. Maybe a `message'?
>
> Personally, I think the scrolling itself is enough feedback. It
> either scrolls or it doesn't. That's what happens in many other
> programs, for example in Firefox. And scroll-bar-mode is enabled by
> default.
>
> But I think my opinion on this carries less weight than Stefan
> Monnier's. :-)
My current *Messages* buffer is listed below. I never look at it
because it just doesn't make sense.
Thanks anyway for your efforts to remove the beeps, martin
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-11 8:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-20 6:08 bug#16196: 24.3.50; Disable ding when scrolling Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 8:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-20 10:26 ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 10:32 ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 10:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-20 17:52 ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-20 18:48 ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 20:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-23 2:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-23 10:44 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-03 22:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-03 23:46 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-04 0:03 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-04 5:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04 9:40 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-04 13:43 ` martin rudalics
2014-01-04 20:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04 7:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04 9:36 ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 10:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-09 7:55 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-09 8:57 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-08-10 18:07 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-11 14:28 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-08-12 0:52 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30 13:26 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30 13:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-30 14:03 ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-30 14:11 ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-30 14:19 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30 21:51 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-04 16:11 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-09 9:00 ` martin rudalics
2019-08-10 18:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-11 8:17 ` martin rudalics [this message]
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