From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: POLL: make C-x o transient Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2021 20:27:00 +0000 Message-ID: <993b9ce74d0310ab1c1b@heytings.org> References: <2EFBBE54-62F4-4373-82D6-DC8750B648BA@kuaishou.com> <87eei9xb5r.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87sg6m5mjs.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <8735ykc37u.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <938445fec66b0cdb0c4e@heytings.org> <87y2gchcpm.fsf@posteo.net> <9031b3534b1379ca1f96@heytings.org> <5588fb25809fad66f986@heytings.org> <8735yanbau.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <5588fb2580cf77301ab1@heytings.org> <87sg69dmjb.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3086"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 06 21:27:49 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l8UBJ-0000h3-Fg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 21:27:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59034 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l8UBI-0007nt-Hq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 15:27:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39308) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l8UAc-0006zm-18 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 15:27:06 -0500 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:39714) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l8UAa-0004gl-4E; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 15:27:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1612643221; bh=B9PxktsNi6ktswlLHp8fewoM9a52c47VptvvGJ09QfA=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=f+tCtPsYmBY53+2daA4PlVdXFEjwRYzrn1/wVBjSuBMPc0qo2BcqCTfBVHqo/TL73 Mpmt4rb51cXODme0mFNh8pxRDMHXBengCqgT7/M6lYupks3ocjQid4jZE86cq049x5 9bjUGorw75VxWXFVVm+FSWwLsXsrMSzI/VAXFn1IzAtkfOoItud8rWxlh6QUwp6qsS 1axZiyEnjUg5DXSWenDu9++3xeynkz5GM2rE/sW9kNeZFtBeaKXDwekKsKuTcgjx+V eNWjF3No8IKsy0+wJl9fZpvCQpM+1B1Ua8ttbfcKv8NhTOmdzVr9BtoqUNAKMEC8+9 zY9R55oo+u85Q== In-Reply-To: <87sg69dmjb.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264083 Archived-At: >> 3. there are even cases where this is not possible to use it, for >> example, how would you repeat C-x C-t? > > Either by repeating the last char 'C-t', or using a custom transient > keymap with more keys. > Don't you agree that both solutions feel just wrong? >> 4. you cannot freely change the argument between two repetitions > > Why not? C-x o O should be equivalent to C-x o C-- o. > It isn't, when you type C-- between two repetitions you have to type the command again. With "C-- o" you get an error "Negative repetition argument -1".