From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New sync'd branch Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:00:36 -0400 Message-ID: <98EAB66C-1F43-4B20-8F41-CAA40BDA58C1@gmail.com> References: <83praic5r5.fsf@gnu.org> <83d46gcnsb.fsf@gnu.org> <87ocq0l2hw.fsf@iki.fi> <83ab1kcmi5.fsf@gnu.org> <877hwom4og.fsf@telefonica.net> <873a7bn9rm.fsf@telefonica.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1074) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-24-444813822; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1251482530 18825 80.91.229.12 (28 Aug 2009 18:02:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?windows-1252?Q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 28 20:02:02 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Mh5lx-00079U-8Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:02:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43964 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mh5lw-0000j0-Mw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:02:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mh5kk-0007de-OK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:00:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mh5kf-0007UH-E2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:00:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58782 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mh5kf-0007Tr-0p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:00:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qy0-f193.google.com ([209.85.221.193]:41987) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mh5ke-0007BQ-GG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:00:40 -0400 Original-Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so1516298qyk.27 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:00:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=7nvd8bcf6HBhX7ELLWVn4YZReQhGAy6TFgkGGL/B+1Q=; b=pboI3yVye8u1pHCMLE1GGpbix3cOfjAwYLaIwXK8U+obQ8i6RmtUN03w0mAivFpmtR u0bdGrzh3FYlQJpRRapJZfVKS9+2lNLMyVV5q0UfgIdB/BVSuT2t/Q1/zWB9rocHJ+2X 1xtCAJ0BluCeHo1rRUsy2qZcPfsHhiEcLBwbc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=A3V5Ewixc6Xi4GkjVBrU0QT0MoW1+heuu/DuPCRBbTW7/CUmmEcQkK+NmiI3fXi50H jGtmNAgAp/bGqT2SX8e+IgpcgWnYY4mIBUtZu+y2LaebllLizVMdRkOQHuZIRacsvrKz eaOSouNeNLPV6RujhjCxJPg9NyBvtpLYp3sYc= Original-Received: by 10.224.96.207 with SMTP id i15mr1369170qan.179.1251482439920; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from scarlett.psy.cmu.edu (SCARLETT.PSY.CMU.EDU [128.2.249.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm589870qyk.12.2009.08.28.11.00.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:00:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <873a7bn9rm.fsf@telefonica.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1074) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114778 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail-24-444813822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Aug 28, 2009, at 1:11 PM, =D3scar Fuentes wrote: > git > requires quite a bit of mastership and knowing lots of things about =20= > its > inner workings. When did you learn it? Was that before or after their interface =20 improvements in or around 2008? I use git productively without knowing anything about their pack =20 format, or when exactly it runs a garbage collection, or how the git =20 transfer protocol works. I do know that it's a graph structure, what =20= they mean by HEAD, how a refid identifies a node on the graph, why it =20= changes if content or metadata of the node change, what it means to =20 rebase (although the exact syntax I would look up). All useful and =20 beautiful concepts, easy to understand with some general computer =20 science training. And I think you'd have to know this stuff for Bzr =20= or Hg, too. --Apple-Mail-24-444813822 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIFxDCCAn0w ggHmoAMCAQICED6shx13jEDrq0eL8FRq5ykwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA4MTIwOTAyMDgwMVoXDTA5MTIwOTAyMDgw MVowYjEQMA4GA1UEBBMHUmVpdHRlcjEOMAwGA1UEKhMFRGF2aWQxFjAUBgNVBAMTDURhdmlkIFJl aXR0ZXIxJjAkBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWF2RhdmlkLnJlaXR0ZXJAZ21haWwuY29tMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3 DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDOdo6kAwlkBxUb8dj4saMbYg4SVng8CUePFn3cjjWrakBTbUVa4Z0n wlUxr7AitEeKhBy5nGhu96+jKUPrCwYNRCZ0l2ovvuGq4z1m1nZ5/c8WvFlVhieuxXMUfmb/O7D3 IojoX6iS8n5MNNU2IWNNT/AD3vOl6DKgOtOw4J9y+QIDAQABozQwMjAiBgNVHREEGzAZgRdkYXZp ZC5yZWl0dGVyQGdtYWlsLmNvbTAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBAIjI8yEW wkiEfA9PMgpjnD6KyCXT0iZjHhW2PkR53yZZLUoTboHnKgsFwYp/gzzIL8J5cvZaRUyMUzXDufPP dRmxxCs2jXXLDD/8bvdvOuMzqgYoFA73fAfsC8S6qUL1PayZ90J8CZHNhDwqWqOA56T+DdKUegJT sqoHKh6OnypTMIIDPzCCAqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx FTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3 dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEk MCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhxwZXJz b25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAwMFoXDTEzMDcxNjIzNTk1OVow YjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAq BgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEB AQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1BHCd3+n/ox7svc31W/Iadr1/DDph8r9RzgHU 5VAKMNcCY1osiRVwjt3J8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwLB+fxH5E2JCoTzyvV84J3PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTX p6a7n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+nttE8YQRAHmQZcmC3+wIDAQABo4GUMIGRMBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8C AQAwQwYDVR0fBDwwOjA4oDagNIYyaHR0cDovL2NybC50aGF3dGUuY29tL1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFs RnJlZW1haWxDQS5jcmwwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMCkGA1UdEQQiMCCkHjAcMRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2 YXRlTGFiZWwyLTEzODANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQBIjNFQg+oLLswNo2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aU nX9MIbj4Nh+qLZ82L8D0HFAgk3A8/a3hYWLD2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSeJVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5 jowgT2Vfldr394fWxghOrvbqNOUQGls1TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/XV9lTzGCAo8wggKLAgEB MHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4x LDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhA+rIcdd4xA66tH i/BUaucpMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgggFvMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcN AQkFMQ8XDTA5MDgyODE4MDAzN1owIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFLfSzF4rC7mYpj6p9/MB/wux17wq MIGFBgkrBgEEAYI3EAQxeDB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3Vs dGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWlu ZyBDQQIQPqyHHXeMQOurR4vwVGrnKTCBhwYLKoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxeKB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpB MSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUg UGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQPqyHHXeMQOurR4vwVGrnKTANBgkqhkiG9w0B AQEFAASBgKEUEwMntZvkmD4R6h9Z7+cw36+Ho7KFrn9iiOVDpy8D0U98eRlpsguqkVjp4DX1WLkP AzDE1wtn/1Ofm/PUS+Ogf0xpQVyyXsS+VUntdPsuFVcjxehSwYzZWsdO0nxPg+0plUi7lFfr7iAT QZnX7CCX5d274C+ruw6m29lxrU+pAAAAAAAA --Apple-Mail-24-444813822--