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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
Cc: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Blink Cursor mode is off by default
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:02:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98930BC3-F62C-4BFF-8B06-8CFB65E8D243@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bf9b9f14-27cf-33d3-266f-69a2b5b2a03c@dancol.org>

On June 12, 2018 5:33:32 AM GMT+03:00, Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org> wrote:
> On 06/11/2018 07:31 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 16:19:42 -0700
> >> From: dancol@dancol.org
> >> Cc: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>,
> >>   emacs-devel@gnu.org
> >>
> >>>> Well, yes, but they aren't supposed to do that in that file,
> right?
> >>
> >> What about temporarily setting a variable watcher on
> blink-cursor-mode so
> >> we can tell whether early init touched it?
> > 
> > I think it's too gross.
> 
> Why? We have a tool. Let's use it.

I cannot explain it, but it sounds inelegant.

I think we can use (get var 'standard-value) instead to detect
variables that were modified in early-init, and refrain from
reinitializing them the second time.

> >>> Not sure: a valid choice now is to do all your customizations in
> >>> early-init.el and not use any .emacs.d/init.el at all.
> >>
> >> That's what I do now.
> > 
> > I suggest you don't.  This is not what early-init.el is for.
> 
> Why not? Now I can have the entire configuration loaded before the
> first 
> frame is created. It looks clean.

Clean, but unsafe, as important parts of startup has not yet
been done.  E.g., anything related to fonts or faces will probably
not work reliably at that point.

There's a reason why we read the user init file at some specific
place and not before.





  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-12  4:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-11 16:48 Blink Cursor mode is off by default Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-11 17:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-11 17:32   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-11 22:13     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-11 23:19       ` dancol
2018-06-12  2:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-12  2:33           ` Daniel Colascione
2018-06-12  4:02             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-06-12  4:12               ` dancol
2018-06-12 15:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-12 15:52                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-12 16:40                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-12 16:51                       ` dancol
2018-06-15 14:14                 ` Yes, please allow pre-configuration of first frame [was: Blink Cursor mode is off by default] N. Jackson
2018-06-15 14:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-15 21:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-16 14:37                     ` Daniel Colascione
2018-06-16 17:20                       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-16 17:26                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-16 17:33                           ` Daniel Colascione
2018-06-12 15:24               ` Blink Cursor mode is off by default Stefan Monnier
2018-06-12  2:29       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-11 20:43 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-06-12  2:26   ` Eli Zaretskii

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