From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 859190f 2/3: Convert some keymaps to defvar-keymap Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 07:41:16 +0000 Message-ID: <9865db3af5547c6ca15c@heytings.org> References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20211004081727.4F24921048@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <871r4qcs8s.fsf@gnus.org> <87o87ubcnl.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7dm9en7.fsf@gnus.org> <818f9907c2b1fe8b54b1@heytings.org> <83tuhlnkxm.fsf@gnu.org> <818f9907c2f359a71f49@heytings.org> <83czo9nj4g.fsf@gnu.org> <818f9907c244b9db0bea@heytings.org> <834k9lnd2i.fsf@gnu.org> <818f9907c2dff3b49971@heytings.org> <83k0ign3zj.fsf@gnu.org> <818f9907c26fb6f0233a@heytings.org> <838rywm7a7.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19740"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 14 09:42:48 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mavO4-0004xu-JX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 09:42:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55282 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mavO3-0007cb-C7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 03:42:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59958) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mavMf-0006qK-1q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 03:41:21 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:50658) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mavMc-0006kO-PM; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 03:41:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1634197276; bh=hICu/AsYdesyqE8kVs+cFeMlbYxO4I1k8D5tvkSmmOY=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=bVv0B58EZ7QQ99m5stgFr+q8PC1dmVkRIuErtM01PwEbLMH7t/a85TyxYPymnbahB GuDyGOuEwQzPUXHgrjJlvMIkgUwDw/5zL2ABp3W5nTW6DMhBx3b9QIJgvl+XbWlaeN hvwb0IzunABaN0jxKb3i46GyX7EvXUGiFr8LV1R6/PPOMUBPN5LQEJfUkoexysI84O HSpSXbJDNw45QnhvnsD8c9xQX/GRTnfBIhogmDbZR8MjQVUqIxNkifdh4LT5+l2UjB hEuJP0P4eOnFYRcStaa8s2wmn14uKwyOPV0VdacmaaI8LdRK4SDEvCw4FRN4FkXIzx 6KqVo8JGk8NlA== In-Reply-To: <838rywm7a7.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -1 X-Spam_score: -0.2 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.2 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276974 Archived-At: >> The question (at least as I understood is) was to make it possible for >> users (in their init files) and third-party packages to use a more >> readable syntax for key bindings, without wrapping each key binding in >> a call to kbd. > > No, we wanted ourselves to be able to use that, not just let users do it > in their init files. > If by "that" you mean "use a more readable syntax for key bindings, without wrapping each key binding in a call to kbd", then this is not what we will have, even with Stefan K's patch, with which it will be possible to use (kbd ...) in preloaded files. To have "that", it would be necessary to go one step further. Which was the main point of my proposal.