From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: emacs-20101122 windows binaries Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:14:42 -0800 Message-ID: <983F771CD16748968B5E9E60A19FFA07@us.oracle.com> References: <8762vpj9ep.fsf@gmail.com><87d3pwt759.fsf@home.jasonrumney.net><871v6cjagz.fsf@gmail.com><874ob7tzlr.fsf@home.jasonrumney.net> <87vd3nbh6a.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1290575820 13490 80.91.229.12 (24 Nov 2010 05:17:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 05:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Sean Sieger' , emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Jason Rumney' To: "'Stephen J. Turnbull'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 24 06:16:55 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PL7ix-0006bb-1i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 06:16:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47237 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PL7iw-0000cd-6n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:16:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40070 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PL7im-0000cM-CW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:16:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PL7ih-00059b-H0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:16:44 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:29643) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PL7ic-00058w-57; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:16:34 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id oAO5GToi011593 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 24 Nov 2010 05:16:30 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id oAO5GR6h018961; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 05:16:27 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt014.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 808358751290575682; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:14:42 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.218.132) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:14:42 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87vd3nbh6a.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Thread-Index: AcuLfW3U36bHzJ6eTsascQ3dwKTegQAF9P9g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:133110 Archived-At: s> Making multiple builds available is an admin PITA (if you know how to s> do better, please advise, but that's been my experience) and the disk s> space can add up fast (since modularized installs are detested by most s> users; they want a one-file-download-and-no-questions-asked-install). Unless I'm missing something you are echoing what I said: d> In that case, I would think that the only drawbacks to d> our providing both versions (debug or not) would be disk d> space at GNU (and other sites for downloading) and d> preparation time for Emacs developers (twice the work, d> whatever it might be). I was asking whether those are the only drawbacks for Emacs dev - they are the only ones I could think of. You seem to be confirming that they are (and emphasizing their importance). "Shipping" seems to have disappeared from the discussion, so I suppose my guess that we don't do any shipping was also accurate. Thanks for the clarification.