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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 29838@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#29838: 26.0; Elisp manual: describe standard-error sexps
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 12:05:33 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <97c4c503-91cd-4635-8fde-487f22275f02@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831sjkj6iu.fsf@gnu.org>

> >
> > Please explain whatever _can_ be explained.
> 
> Sorry, I don't know how to do that in any useful way.  Maybe someone
> else will have an idea.

As I said:

  A start could to be to mention that an `args-out-of range'
  error sexp has the form `(args-out-of-range ARG...)' or
  whatever the truth is, and then say what ARG represents,
  in general terms.

And as I said:

  If [users] saw only nice error messages such as "Args out
  of range: [1 2 3 4], -1" then there would be no such problem.

That too would take care of this bug.

Put differently, users should not see a message that refers
to something (internal?) that they cannot understand and
that you say you don't know how to explain.  But that's
what happens currently with (as one example), errors raised
on `post-command-hook'.

It is presumably possible to see such unhelpful messages
also in other contexts where raising an error is suppressed
in favor of showing a message about the error.  Perhaps a
all such inferior messages could be fixed at the same place
(dunno).





  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-24 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-24 17:22 bug#29838: 26.0; Elisp manual: describe standard-error sexps Drew Adams
2017-12-24 18:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-24 18:50   ` Drew Adams
2017-12-24 19:00     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-24 20:05       ` Drew Adams [this message]
2022-02-07 10:09       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-12-24 18:54   ` Drew Adams
2017-12-24 19:57     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-12-24 20:10       ` Drew Adams
2017-12-25  8:52         ` Andreas Schwab
2017-12-25 16:28           ` Drew Adams

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