From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 12:52:39 +0000 Message-ID: <97113ce8bab1a4e2456d@heytings.org> References: <97d3ff2c-9e72-4004-88a9-08130ac99a74@default> <838s0fpixr.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0jtr45c.fsf@gnu.org> <87v93avtoe.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1dyvtav.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtolx6de.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilz9x5c8.fsf@gnus.org> <87y284rb1z.fsf@gnus.org> <0d48a23084a8b0435f37@heytings.org> <83h7eqf9wx.fsf@gnu.org> <0d48a230848de1d1b255@heytings.org> <83ee9uf82a.fsf@gnu.org> <0d48a23084cf7a569554@heytings.org> <83czpef6hj.fsf@gnu.org> <97113ce8ba560c9ac39f@heytings.org> <6b0f1c8e-9cfa-99b5-2862-d25e85cff3e5@gmx.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24184"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, hmelman@gmail.com, 21695@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 13 15:13:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mPllt-00066i-QW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:13:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34198 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPlls-0007CI-Hv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:13:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55012) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPlSI-000505-LJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:33074) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPlSI-0001HE-Cr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPlSI-0003QV-Bs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:53:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gregory Heytings Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 12:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21695 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 21695-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21695.163153756313142 (code B ref 21695); Mon, 13 Sep 2021 12:53:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21695) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2021 12:52:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44620 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPlRz-0003Pu-K3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:52:43 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:58684) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPlRx-0003Pj-EY for 21695@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:52:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1631537559; bh=my3kN0KohV7MkgADofw9NQzVidgjkTugxMFRJ7nKuhQ=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=smH0go084aeznJOGO5siM2QMI1VFSZRPCgaDIoYyrRh9IAXyPyO/WXIBCcNpzZyBF 748AhituWGqh68pq1hySveFtZGwoDTOcivyrV0QLdgpr60rp8muM+OnWKoruhiQTUh eAtzIW9arDf1OmPtXEz2wAOIfwQYYFuG3Z7gteV1O3owMYBX2wkuJ3eRk740V8ZI3x 0sJEMxHCVa1CUZZKUvJQlFvVolYvtBobefwuahG6lNZsfy1IanpTILdJJxuoQHlSfw l7wFbP6YFiXVTW3HwrnbpGlBohvxkyCroxhTBzf0MNpYyAYeia2RHBnlzIuwrQKfJu H9w7u8DogTeuw== In-Reply-To: <6b0f1c8e-9cfa-99b5-2862-d25e85cff3e5@gmx.at> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:214224 Archived-At: >> Because init files are typically not bytecompiled, and because that >> would not catch interactive uses with e.g. M-:. > > Both would be most unwelcome here. I often use `setq' in short "init" > files for debugging purposes and sometimes use `setq' via M-: during > debugging. In neither of these cases I wanted to be disturbed by any > warnings. I would, however, welcome being warned when a user option is > overridden by a package I load, either by a local binding or `setq'. > At compile time. > The point is not to display unnecessary warnings. The point is only to display warnings for custom variables that should not be set with setq because they have a :set form, or IOW, to display warnings for custom variables that should be set with customize-set-variables.