From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What does 'run' do in cperl-mode? Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 01:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <96995013-d880-4a2d-be61-c389f56eec32@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com> References: <86hcad9ar4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <0bb45e96-f9f3-4451-a457-004bb5930c76@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <927b0c4a-3de2-4be5-b86a-7ffacc4d718e@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <88821130-f989-49ac-b8b1-e3cb2f5c5271@1g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <86r6993m9f.fsf@lifelogs.com> <218dfb54-c3b0-4887-a305-a8ae984a2f2b@a8g2000prf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217580151 20019 80.91.229.12 (1 Aug 2008 08:42:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:42:31 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 01 10:43:21 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KOqDr-0001Mx-90 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:42:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42227 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOqCw-0006KJ-OL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:41:54 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 51 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.97.120 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1217577637 21998 127.0.0.1 (1 Aug 2008 08:00:37 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.97.120; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Safari/525.22, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:160763 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:56116 Archived-At: On Aug 1, 12:18 am, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From:Xah > > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:34:16 -0700 (PDT) > > > On Jul 31, 12:07 pm, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:20:35 -0700 (PDT)Xah wrote: > > > > >> In that case I suggest you start by making your change suggestion > > > >> through the proper channels, not in this newsgroup. I don't feel = like > > > >> explaining to you basic facts about man-hours, volunteer labor, an= d the > > > >> hundreds of thousands of Emacs users that would deal with that cha= nge. > > > >> Again, I'm not being rude, just unwilling to spend my time explain= ing > > > >> all this when you don't appear to have any experience writing manu= als, > > > >> software, or doing user support. > > > > X> Can you keep to topic instead giving me extraneous advice? > > > > Above I listed the things I don't want to explain to you (but, with a > > > little brain activity, you could understand for yourself) that make y= our > > > 4 man-hours estimate to implement your proposed change extremely > > > unrealistic. This is very much on-topic. It's frustrating that you > > > simply ignore reasonable answers when they don't suit you. > > > One thing about argument, especially among newsgroup tech geekers, is > > that reasoning and critical thinking is wanting, but lots huff and > > puff and sneer. In this thread, i think Eli Zaretskii took the Gold > > for huffy-puffy. > > Look who's talking. Your technique of taking something Ted wrote and > saying that I'm responsible for that in some way of course sets a fine > example of civilized argument about technical issues. It's in no way > an example of huffy-puffy, no sir! > > I guess this means you still didn't recover from the fact that you had > no real arguments to beat mine. I forgive you. Thank you. :) I like to speak to you privately in my office about the problems of elisp manual i sent in gnu's bug report few months ago. Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84