From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4433: 23.1; dolist vs dolist Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:26:40 -0700 Message-ID: <9695EBD72AB847DFB476D5DBECB7DBD0@us.oracle.com> References: <54A8F211D3B841548475B66901164574@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310678859 10688 80.91.229.12 (14 Jul 2011 21:27:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 4433@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 14 23:27:32 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhTRT-0002wB-AT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:27:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56619 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhTRS-0005Q2-63 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:27:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54036) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhTR3-0005PC-KY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:27:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhTR1-0006RC-BV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:27:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55235) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhTR0-0006PM-Un for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:27:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhTR0-0002BL-0d; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:27:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 4433 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 4433-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B4433.13106788158378 (code B ref 4433); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:27:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4433) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2011 21:26:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhTQt-0002B5-EI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:26:55 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhTQs-0002Ah-Em for 4433@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:26:55 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p6ELQk97028751 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:26:48 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6ELQjIX024266 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:26:46 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt102.oracle.com (abhmt102.oracle.com [141.146.116.54]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p6ELQeVl002607; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:26:40 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:26:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcxBXf473Bw51RqqQA6JEKiSA6kmTwAAiYzgAEMeQlA= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4E1F5F18.0065:SCFMA922111,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:27:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:49094 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:30 AM > > > If you have a definition of `return-from', then you have the cl.el > > `dolist', so I don't really see the point. > > I don't see _your_ point. There is no need to check > `return-from'. `C-h f' also tells you which you have, by > referring to the source file. > > That's not the point. > > These two macros have the same name. > These two macros have the same doc. > > These two macros have different behavior. > > This difference, with no corresponding difference in doc or > name, is a proven source of confusion. > > It's probably too late to make the names different and > correct the bad design. > > The doc should distinguish them, carefully and clearly, even > explicitly averting users to the possible confusion (gotcha).