From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Knoppix is not entirely free software Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:49:05 +0200 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <9628-Fri14Nov2003224905+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> References: <17659.1068784236@mixed> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1068843056 27252 80.91.224.253 (14 Nov 2003 20:50:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:50:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 14 21:50:49 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AKku0-0006NB-00 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:50:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AKlqv-0004S6-Bh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:51:41 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AKlq9-0004Qp-2u for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:50:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AKlpc-0004Du-LJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:50:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.23] (helo=aragorn.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AKlpc-0004DE-7t; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:50:20 -0500 Original-Received: from zaretski ([80.230.144.104]) by aragorn.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.7-GR) with ESMTP id BWK45194; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:48:52 +0200 (IST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:10:13 -0500) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:14219 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:14219 > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:10:13 -0500 > > We sometimes design free software so it can work with widely-used > non-free software packages such as Netscape, Windows and MacOS. Being > able to work with them is not the same as recommending them. The > mention of Netscape, Windows and MacOs in Emacs doesn't serve to > spread the word of their existence very much, because users mostly > already know of those packages. > > Eli wrote: > > The fact that Netscape is mentioned in browse-url.el doesn't mean > Emacs recommends it, just that it uses it when it's the only tool to > do a certain job. > > In the GNU Project, we won't recommend a non-free program even if it is > the only way to do a job. We say, "There is nothing we can recommend." I don't see any contradiction, because that's exactly what I said, albeit in different words: using is one thing, recommending is another.