From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21002: 25.0.50; (elisp): `Mode Line Variables', doc of `display-time-string' Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 07:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <961baeef-75ba-4d8d-babe-55c1bff1d53c@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1436280774 8602 80.91.229.3 (7 Jul 2015 14:52:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 14:52:54 +0000 (UTC) To: 21002@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 07 16:52:36 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCUEb-0005k5-VA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 16:52:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58778 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCUEb-0001Oi-EQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:52:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58641) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCU8O-0006pX-JG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:46:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCU8J-0000Ea-4u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:46:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42072) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCU8I-0000Dr-Ro for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:46:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCU8I-000214-Gn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:46:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 14:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 21002 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14362803257703 (code B ref -1); Tue, 07 Jul 2015 14:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2015 14:45:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43518 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCU7f-00020A-Ax for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:45:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44780) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCU7d-0001zs-3W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:45:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCU7T-0007rB-82 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:45:15 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:55137) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCU7T-0007qu-2b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:45:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58174) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCU7M-0005Y1-Sm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:45:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCU7H-0007RJ-Qr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:45:04 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:44326) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCU7H-0007Pj-Ko for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:44:59 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t67EiwKR008209 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 14:44:58 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t67Eivms021657 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 14:44:58 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t67Eiv8t000588 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 14:44:57 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:104799 Archived-At: Variable `global-mode-string' is described in (elisp): `Mode Line Variables', including its default value. `display-time-string' is mentioned explicitly. But `C-h v' tells you nothing about `display-time-string'. To understand something about it you need to look at `time.el'. 1. At the least, some doc string should be added for `display-time-string'. It can, for example, refer users to command `display-time' or to (emacs) `Optional Mode Line', where `display-time' is covered. 2. (elisp): `Mode Line Variables' should itself cross-reference (emacs) `Optional Mode Line' or at least mention command `display-time', where it mentions `display-time-string'. Displaying the time in the mode-line is a user-level thing, and there are many user options that control the resulting `display-time-string'. The only mention of `display-time-string' in the Elisp manual should at least point readers to information about the things that control the content of `display-time-string', especially since most of these things are user-level controls (e.g., options, a command). In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-10-20 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 118168 rgm@gnu.org-20141020195941-icp42t8ttcnud09g Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG=3D1'