From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23426: 25.0.93; dired-do-find-regexp doesn't find newline Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 09:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9565500b-a35d-4de1-922d-c0131ff35ff8@default> References: << <3ba077a2-21e0-9799-4f8b-c07bd1623853@yandex.ru>>> <<<6a4860bb-2b39-4da4-b2a7-7b8d15211fee@default>>> <<<831t5hkg6x.fsf@gnu.org>>> <<7da95e19-50ff-4ca5-a5b8-2a7f65c2a7cd@default>> <<83oa8liz53.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462380107 17284 80.91.229.3 (4 May 2016 16:41:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 16:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23426@debbugs.gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, heinz@h-rommerskirchen.de, kaushal.modi@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 04 18:41:33 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1axzrf-0007yl-6o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:41:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48991 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axzrb-00058u-Bv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:41:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41641) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axzrR-0004wx-O5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:41:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axzrF-0006x4-W0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:41:12 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53941) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axzrF-0006wM-Si for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:41:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axzrC-0001M1-HF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:41:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 16:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23426 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23426-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23426.14623800085134 (code B ref 23426); Wed, 04 May 2016 16:41:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23426) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 16:40:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38045 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axzqJ-0001Kk-QR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:40:07 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:51296) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axzqI-0001KH-AA for 23426@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:40:06 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u44Ge0KU023515 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 4 May 2016 16:40:00 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u44Gdxhf002732 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 4 May 2016 16:40:00 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u44GdwLa007179; Wed, 4 May 2016 16:39:59 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83oa8liz53.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117770 Archived-At: > > How can the new be considered a sufficient replacement, if it > > means that `A' and `Q' no longer work for users without `grep' > > or `find'? >=20 > We obviously don't consider that such a serious obstacle, and the > commands are not popular enough for that to be an issue. If you leave those keys alone then there is no issue whatsoever. Users who want the traditional `A' and `Q' behavior need not install `grep' or `find'. Users who want the new behavior can do so if they need to - no problem. > > This change is not present in any Emacs release AFAIK. >=20 > I don't see how this fact is relevant. The discussions were held here > and on emacs-devel, with you and others reading it. Sorry, but you don't know what I read and don't read. > > > You were here all that time, so I don't understand why you raise > > > this only now. > > > > Dunno what you mean by "here". >=20 > Here on this mailing list. I read some messages in some bug reports, but certainly not most. > > This is the first I've learned of this feature and the fact that it > > requires users to install `grep' and `find' commands to use `A' and > > `Q' in Dired. >=20 > May I suggest to pay more attention to on-going discussions in the > future? You can suggest it, but I already spend far too much time paying attention to ongoing discussions here. > > Had you simply _added_ this feature and not usurped the existing > > bindings, you would likely have heard nothing from me about this. >=20 > These commands were introduced with the explicit intent to replace the > old ones as 'A' and 'Q' bindings, so that tags-loop-continue would not > be needed anymore. Again, the discussions about that were all held > here, for quite a few moons. I give up.