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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 23426@debbugs.gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru,
	heinz@h-rommerskirchen.de, kaushal.modi@gmail.com
Subject: bug#23426: 25.0.93; dired-do-find-regexp doesn't find newline
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 09:39:57 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9565500b-a35d-4de1-922d-c0131ff35ff8@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<83oa8liz53.fsf@gnu.org>>

> > How can the new be considered a sufficient replacement, if it
> > means that `A' and `Q' no longer work for users without `grep'
> > or `find'?
> 
> We obviously don't consider that such a serious obstacle, and the
> commands are not popular enough for that to be an issue.

If you leave those keys alone then there is no issue whatsoever.
Users who want the traditional `A' and `Q' behavior need not
install `grep' or `find'.  Users who want the new behavior can
do so if they need to - no problem.

> > This change is not present in any Emacs release AFAIK.
> 
> I don't see how this fact is relevant.  The discussions were held here
> and on emacs-devel, with you and others reading it.

Sorry, but you don't know what I read and don't read.

> > > You were here all that time, so I don't understand why you raise
> > > this only now.
> >
> > Dunno what you mean by "here".
> 
> Here on this mailing list.

I read some messages in some bug reports, but certainly not most.

> > This is the first I've learned of this feature and the fact that it
> > requires users to install `grep' and `find' commands to use `A' and
> > `Q' in Dired.
> 
> May I suggest to pay more attention to on-going discussions in the
> future?

You can suggest it, but I already spend far too much time paying
attention to ongoing discussions here.

> > Had you simply _added_ this feature and not usurped the existing
> > bindings, you would likely have heard nothing from me about this.
> 
> These commands were introduced with the explicit intent to replace the
> old ones as 'A' and 'Q' bindings, so that tags-loop-continue would not
> be needed anymore.  Again, the discussions about that were all held
> here, for quite a few moons.

I give up.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-04 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<<CAFyQvY0KYfeg9-f8DiCJcEy5-W=yRFykLLpCHRtCeqzz9Bdi0g@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<3ba077a2-21e0-9799-4f8b-c07bd1623853@yandex.ru>
     [not found]   ` <<<6a4860bb-2b39-4da4-b2a7-7b8d15211fee@default>
     [not found]     ` <<<831t5hkg6x.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<7da95e19-50ff-4ca5-a5b8-2a7f65c2a7cd@default>
     [not found]         ` <<6cf9e2bf-fa90-3783-b30a-9021074790b0@yandex.ru>
     [not found]           ` <<93badbbc-31f6-409d-8dff-d67e9202deca@default>
     [not found]             ` <<83lh3piyvq.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-04 16:23               ` bug#23426: 25.0.93; dired-do-find-regexp doesn't find newline Drew Adams
     [not found]         ` <<83oa8liz53.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-04 16:39           ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-05-04 18:20             ` John Wiegley
2016-05-04 20:09               ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 21:13                 ` John Wiegley
2016-05-05 17:07                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-05 23:44                     ` John Wiegley
2016-05-05 17:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-05 17:01               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-02 17:17 Heinz Rommerskirchen
2016-05-02 17:41 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-02 17:45   ` Drew Adams
2016-05-02 18:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-03  1:18   ` Glenn Morris
2016-05-03 16:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-03 23:08       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-03 17:22     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-03 19:00       ` Glenn Morris
2016-05-03 20:59         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04  2:05           ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04  2:34             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04  4:24               ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 15:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                 ` <<838tzpkgtj.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-04 15:31                   ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 15:39                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 16:04                       ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 16:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 16:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                     ` <<83r3dhizis.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-04 16:32                       ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 16:51                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04  5:00 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-05-04 10:32   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 13:32     ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 13:49       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 15:31         ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 16:01           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 15:15       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 15:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <<6a4860bb-2b39-4da4-b2a7-7b8d15211fee@default>
     [not found]       ` <<831t5hkg6x.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-04 15:39         ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 15:53           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 16:10             ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 16:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 16:20               ` Kaushal Modi
2016-05-04 16:25                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 16:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 18:06                   ` Kaushal Modi
2016-05-04 16:28               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 16:08           ` Eli Zaretskii

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