From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some developement questions Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 13:31:49 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <94a3d3ec-169a-d254-1bea-d8be6a3ac9c5@cs.ucla.edu> References: <8336v6cvem.fsf@gnu.org> <8736v6icgt.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83tvnmb958.fsf@gnu.org> <877ekigiiw.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <837ekhb2me.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhxcbmtr.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83in409lub.fsf@gnu.org> <871sanb71j.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83y3cu7t9j.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg8t2ki9.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <20180827015422.lcq44zvsjffeau4j@Ergus> <83a7p76f5e.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg8p9o6y.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83pnxx1foj.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1o1a06q.fsf@russet.org.uk> <877ek1ql6u.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <19f783eb-a688-2a69-e209-ea161177c8cb@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536093061 10768 195.159.176.226 (4 Sep 2018 20:31:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 20:31:01 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams , hw , Phillip Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 04 22:30:57 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fxHyP-0002a8-Mu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:30:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52550 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxI0V-0005Mg-Lx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:33:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54864) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxHzQ-0005MO-BV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:31:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxHzP-0004uI-JW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:31:56 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:53444) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxHzL-0004rs-Uf; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:31:52 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD021616E0; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 13:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 3RbM7glel-wi; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 13:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FDC1616E4; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 13:31:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id dODBfXlEOUYd; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 13:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-23-242-74-103.socal.res.rr.com [23.242.74.103]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 543A21616E0; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 13:31:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229263 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: >> A little bit of marketing would help here. The initial contents of *scratch*, >> the mode line, and the minibuffer need not be monospaced, and would all >> benefit from a better font. > > 99.999% of my use of*scratch* and the minibuffer is code or data > that should be (i.e., that I want to be) monospace. That's fine, and I wasn't suggesting changing that. > are you proposing that Emacs automatically > change *scratch* to a monospace font when most of its contents > become code No, just that the initial contents shouldn't be monospace. > What's so hard about using a variable-width font for your Emacs > classes/demos I generally don't do demos. My students use Emacs directly, and it's better for them (as for any other new user) if the defaults work nicely for them. > (FWIW, on MS Windows it looks like menus use a variable-width > font.) Same is true for GNU/Linux, by default.