From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Improving Emacs (was: usability problem of emacs describe-mode) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:34:35 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <94585c48-dcdb-4bc5-84ce-b6e1df45b48d@v18g2000pro.googlegroups.com> References: <76fcf833-ad89-44f2-b227-e18295317ca2@p13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> <87bpsqqosz.fsf@iki.fi> <871vtlro30.fsf@iki.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1235987871 5271 80.91.229.12 (2 Mar 2009 09:57:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:57:51 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 02 10:59:07 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Le4vS-0000CW-OD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:59:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47501 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Le4u7-0001V6-QO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:57:43 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!v18g2000pro.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs Original-Lines: 47 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.175.142 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1235950475 18508 127.0.0.1 (1 Mar 2009 23:34:35 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: v18g2000pro.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.175.142; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.27.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.2.1 Safari/525.27.1, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:167202 comp.emacs:97890 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:57:17 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:62509 Archived-At: On Feb 26, 11:33 am, Teemu Likonen wrote: > Anyway, I find your ergonomic Emacs keybindings[1] interesting, and it's > nice that there is code available. Thank you. > I found the keybindings too > intrusive, though, so I implemented my own map which only changes > certain cursor movement keys. It's a global minor mode with its own mode > map so it can be turned on and off easily. The code is here: > > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ergo-movement-mode.el > > --------------- > 1. http://xahlee.org/emacs/ergonomic_emacs_keybinding.html I'd appreciate it if you mention =E2=80=9CInspired by Xah Lee's Ergoemacs keybindings=E2=80=9D, possibly with a link. For those finding the convertion too much, you can also start with simpler ones, with elisp code given here: http://code.google.com/p/ergoemacs/wiki/adoption The simplest one is start with this: ;; kicking the habit (global-unset-key (kbd "C-b")) ; backward-char (global-unset-key (kbd "C-f")) ; forward-char (global-unset-key (kbd "C-p")) ; previous-line (global-unset-key (kbd "C-n")) ; next-line (global-unset-key (kbd "C-SPC")) ; set-mark-command ;; Single char cursor movement. (global-set-key (kbd "M-j") 'backward-char) (global-set-key (kbd "M-l") 'forward-char) (global-set-key (kbd "M-i") 'previous-line) (global-set-key (kbd "M-k") 'next-line) ;; set mark (global-set-key (kbd "M-SPC") 'set-mark-command) Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84