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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Lars Ingebrigtsen" <larsi@gnus.org>,
	"積丹尼 Dan Jacobson" <jidanni@jidanni.org>
Cc: 6491@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#6491: 24.0.50; list-buffers should not throw away marks
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 04:30:45 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <941e77a7-3d7e-4423-985a-59f1c292384d@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eezak91x.fsf@gnus.org>

> > Docstring ""v runs the command Buffer-menu-select (found in
> > Buffer-menu-mode-map),""
> > doesn't even mention it throws away the marks.
> 
> No, but it's common (in some modes)

Which ones?  Maybe they should change, to take
advantage of the other (superior ;-)) behavior.

Do they have a notion of updating - does `g'
update them in some way?  Or does it just reset
them?

A file listing is a perfect case for having `g'
update - sync with the world outside the buffer
state.  That you can do that but keep other
aspects of the buffer state is a plus.

Maybe the modes you have in mind do not have
any notion of updating, so `g' just does a
total reset?  If not, they might be candidates
for upgrading to the Dired-like behavior. ;-)

> to first mark a bunch of stuff, and
> then when you execute the command on those marked things, the marks are
> cleared so that you can then mark some other things and do some stuff
> on them.

That's only useful when it's necessary because
no one provided an alternative.  And it's only
necessary if the mode doesn't have a simple
way to clear the marks on demand.  (`M-DEL RET'
in Dired.)

Separating clearing marks from syncing the buffer
is a plus.  There's no good reason to hard-couple
the two - unless reverting does no updating, i.e.,
unless it's essentially just clearing marks.

> Dired is one mode that doesn't work like that, but it's not the only
> mode in Emacs.

It's not the only one, but it's a good one.  And
it's clearly the closest one to the behavior of
`list-buffers'.





  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-18  4:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-22  9:51 bug#6491: 24.0.50; list-buffers should not throw away marks jidanni
2011-07-13 23:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-13 23:58   ` Drew Adams
2011-07-16 20:19     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-13 20:58     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-18  3:11       ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2019-10-18  3:48         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-18  4:30           ` Drew Adams [this message]
2019-10-18  5:44             ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-08-07 10:56               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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