From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: C-h C-b to view "Reporting Bugs" section of the manual Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 18:57:41 -0700 Message-ID: <9404D5B04C754DFAA8733E1027D8BDF5@us.oracle.com> References: <41txz9pboj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org><3C645B82A25242F7AF3BE16B9CB9BCAA@us.oracle.com> <87hav9oyq3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1337651878 9590 80.91.229.3 (22 May 2012 01:57:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 01:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Stephen J. Turnbull'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 22 03:57:58 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SWeMH-0003OF-TS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 May 2012 03:57:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55108 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SWeMH-0005zg-GA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 May 2012 21:57:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48637) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SWeMF-0005zI-0X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2012 21:57:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SWeMD-00040a-7Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2012 21:57:54 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:42810) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SWeMD-0003zz-0v; Mon, 21 May 2012 21:57:53 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q4M1vmBc028513 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 22 May 2012 01:57:49 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4M1vkN8013429 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 22 May 2012 01:57:48 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt111.oracle.com (abhmt111.oracle.com [141.146.116.63]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q4M1viff005042; Mon, 21 May 2012 20:57:44 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.160.54) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 21 May 2012 18:57:43 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87hav9oyq3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Thread-Index: Ac03sFj3hkwZA8q4TguNGbyT42yQ5AADHDkw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 148.87.113.117 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:150589 Archived-At: > > `C-h M-k' for `describe-keymap' > > Speaking of redundant bindings (C-h m ...) Not at all. Have you tried it? There is nothing similar anywhere, AFAIK. It is not like `C-x b' (current bindings, all maps) or `C-h m' (mode description - variable and always incomplete wrt a keymap). Try finding the keys bound in a minibuffer keymap, in a human-readable form. The closest thing you have is for a prefix key: `C-x C-h'. The point with `C-h M-k' is to "see" the bindings for a given keymap variable. (Yes, that's probably more useful for Emacs programmers than the average Emacs user.) > > Instead of binding `C-h C-b' to take you to (emacs) > > `Bugs', I'd sooner see us add a link to (emacs) `Bugs' in > > the doc string of `report-emacs-bug'. > > Why there? That has the same problems as above (except that links > aren't a scarce resource). The link should be in the blurb that > appears when you invoke r-e-b, where it is obviously useful and > usefully obvious. That could be useful too. It's not either/or. When you look for the doc about a command (including `r-e-b'), why not have immediately a set of links to its doc in the manuals (with the manual names and nodes in the links).