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From: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] trunk r114483: * term/ns-win.el (ns-initialize-window-system): Set locale-coding-system
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 08:29:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <93838DEC-76C4-4C1F-AEE3-3F00B77D6C9C@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv4n90fr1k.fsf-monnier+emacsdiffs@gnu.org>

Hello.

2 okt 2013 kl. 02:43 skrev Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>:

>> No they should not IMHO.  As they must be started from a teminal, LANG is
>> either correct or set to another value for some purpose.
> 
> IIUC the encoding used under Darwin for filenames is always utf-8.
> More to the point it uses NFD canonicalization, performed by the OS when
> needed; so pretending these are "byte sequences" that can use any
> encoding you feel like, as is the case in POSIX, is not an option.

As pointed out, how about remote mounts?  I don't know.

> 
> I guess it's OK to obey the user who wants to shot himself in the foot.
> But I do wonder: is LANG really always set in a terminal?  IF so, why
> and by whom?  Will LANG also be set properly if you use some other
> terminal than Terminal.app (e.g. let's say you run `emacs -nw' inside
> an Emacs.app started from the GUI)?

It is Terminal.app that sets it based on system settings for language.
For other emulators, I don't know.  I don't know of any other emulators BTW.
For emacs -nw inside emacs started from GUI, LANG will not be set.

But that goes for many X11 setups as well. If LANG is set in /etc/profile or ~/.profile, it won't be set if you start Emacs from a panel and the parent session manager has not LANG set.


	Jan D.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-02  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1VQKV4-0004YL-Qw@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2013-09-30 18:36 ` [Emacs-diffs] trunk r114483: * term/ns-win.el (ns-initialize-window-system): Set locale-coding-system Stefan Monnier
2013-09-30 19:17   ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-30 22:38     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-01 18:28       ` Jan Djärv
2013-10-02  0:43         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-02  3:12           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-03  1:51             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-03  7:48               ` Andreas Schwab
2013-10-03  9:42                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-03 14:39                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-02  6:29           ` Jan Djärv [this message]
2013-10-03  1:53             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-03 17:18               ` Jan Djärv

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