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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: nxml-mode: Derive from prog-mode instead of text-mode
Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 11:19:18 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <93458087-0860-4fcd-9628-dfcf2b231a69@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877f1gx5b3.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>

> >> > This probably could be unified, too. The big difference here is modes
> >> > that are neither text nor programming — I call them application modes
> >> > — such as dired, calendar, or compilation — because they don’t need
> >>
> >> These should supposedly derive from special-mode.
> >
> > Absolutely not, for Dired.  It should not derive from
> > special-mode, tabulated-list-mode, or anything else.
> 
> I'm curious why not special-mode. My observation of special-mode is
> that it handles: 1) quit, 2) refresh, and 3) unbind everything else.

Quit (`q') and refresh (`g') - that's all.  Oh, and `h' too - but
not `?'.

Like `?', all of the `special-mode' keys besides `q', `g', and `h'
are inappropriate - Dired uses them for other things.

Sure, Dired could override those other bindings, but it makes no
sense to derive from special mode just to get the mundane bindings
for `q', `g', and `h' - providing just `quit-window', `revert-buffer',
and `describe-mode' hardly makes for a "special" mode.

And Dired has its own hooks.  I see no reason for Dired to
respect/use `special-mode-hook'.



  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-16 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-10 10:35 nxml-mode: Derive from prog-mode instead of text-mode Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-05-10 10:40 ` Yuri Khan
2017-05-10 10:52   ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-05-10 11:42     ` Yuri Khan
2017-05-10 12:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-05-10 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-10 17:59   ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-05-10 18:59     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-10 19:28       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-11  7:29       ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-05-11 15:15         ` raman
2017-05-11 15:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-11 15:26         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-14 19:28         ` Philipp Stephani
2017-05-14 19:58           ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-05-15  3:05           ` Tom Tromey
2017-05-16 10:34             ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-05-16 11:17               ` Yuri Khan
2017-05-16 12:12                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-05-16 14:04                   ` Drew Adams
2017-05-16 14:08                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-05-16 18:19                       ` Drew Adams [this message]
2017-05-16 21:48                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-05-17  5:13                         ` Yuri Khan
2017-05-17 12:53                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-05-17 16:02                           ` Drew Adams
2017-05-17 16:20                             ` Yuri Khan
2017-05-17 16:37                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-05-17 17:28                               ` Drew Adams
2017-05-17 18:42                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-05-17 18:52                                   ` Johan Bockgård
2017-05-16 14:11                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-05-16 12:11               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-05-16 18:54               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-16 19:02                 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-05-24  8:50                   ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-05-30  8:05                     ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-05-31 11:52                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-02 12:34                       ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-06-06 14:45                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-05-16 21:50                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-05-11  1:32 ` Rolf Ade

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