* Combining Ctrl + Super_l + ' (quote) does not work @ 2008-11-12 20:26 Yarek Kowalik 2008-11-12 20:32 ` Yarek Kowalik 2008-11-12 22:49 ` Peter Dyballa 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Yarek Kowalik @ 2008-11-12 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs I'm running GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2008-05-02 on king, modified by Ubuntu I have some commands bound to C-s-'. It fails with the right side key combination, but on the left. That is, it works when I press Ctrl_r + Super_r + ', and not but when I press Ctrl_l + Super_l + '. Ctrl_l + ' is recognized as C+' and Super_l + ' is recognized as s-', but strangely combining Ctrl_l and Super_L does not produce C-s-. It's a command I use often, and this is highly annoying as it works fine on my x86 laptop where I run GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2008-05-03 on terranova, modified by Ubuntu. Any clue where I need to tweak to make this work? Yarek ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Combining Ctrl + Super_l + ' (quote) does not work 2008-11-12 20:26 Combining Ctrl + Super_l + ' (quote) does not work Yarek Kowalik @ 2008-11-12 20:32 ` Yarek Kowalik 2008-11-12 22:49 ` Peter Dyballa 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Yarek Kowalik @ 2008-11-12 20:32 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs On Nov 12, 12:26 pm, Yarek Kowalik <yarek.kowa...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm running GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d > scroll bars) of 2008-05-02 on king, modified by Ubuntu > > I have some commands bound to C-s-'. It fails with the right side key > combination, but on the left. That is, it works when I press Ctrl_r + > Super_r + ', and not but when I press Ctrl_l + Super_l + '. Ctrl_l + > ' is recognized as C+' and Super_l + ' is recognized as s-', but > strangely combining Ctrl_l and Super_L does not produce C-s-. > > It's a command I use often, and this is highly annoying as it works > fine on my x86 laptop where I run GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, > X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2008-05-03 on terranova, modified by > Ubuntu. > > Any clue where I need to tweak to make this work? > > Yarek I also tried all other combinations of [Ctrl_L | Ctrl_R] + [Super_L | Super_R] + ', and the only that does not work is the Ctrl_L + Super_L + '. Yarek ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Combining Ctrl + Super_l + ' (quote) does not work 2008-11-12 20:26 Combining Ctrl + Super_l + ' (quote) does not work Yarek Kowalik 2008-11-12 20:32 ` Yarek Kowalik @ 2008-11-12 22:49 ` Peter Dyballa 2008-11-12 23:09 ` Yarek Kowalik [not found] ` <mailman.209.1226536048.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2008-11-12 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw To: Yarek Kowalik; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Am 12.11.2008 um 21:26 schrieb Yarek Kowalik: > Any clue where I need to tweak to make this work? You need to do it in X. The command 'xmodmap -pm' should print that both control and both super modifiers have an equal meaning, although the system can distinguish between them. Something like this should be shown: xmodmap: up to 2 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses): shift Shift_L (0x40), Shift_R (0x44) lock Caps_Lock (0x41) control Control_L (0x43), Control_R (0x46) mod1 Mode_switch (0x42), Mode_switch (0x45) mod2 Meta_L (0x3f) mod3 Super_L (0x2a), Super_R (0x2f) mod4 mod5 With xmodmap you can make your right and left modifier variants be "on the same level." Xmodmap can use kind of a "script," a file ~/.xmodmaprc that adjusts the details, which is invoked from ~/.xinitrc before the first X client is launched. GNU Emacs relies on X11. -- Greetings Pete "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." – Buck Henry ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Combining Ctrl + Super_l + ' (quote) does not work 2008-11-12 22:49 ` Peter Dyballa @ 2008-11-12 23:09 ` Yarek Kowalik 2008-11-14 0:08 ` Peter Dyballa [not found] ` <mailman.209.1226536048.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Yarek Kowalik @ 2008-11-12 23:09 UTC (permalink / raw To: Peter Dyballa; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2650 bytes --] I tried doing the "add" command with xmodmap (see below), and that didn't work. There are two comments on this: 1) the default xmodmap is identical between x86 and amd64 machines, yet the amd64 is not working. Doing xmodmap "add" does not help -- I even tried restarting emacs 2) note that Ctrl_R + *Super_L* + ' works fine, but Ctrl_L + *Super_L* + ' does not. It's the left Ctrl with left Super that's not functioning. It's baffling. Any other thoughts? Yarek phoenix% xmodmap xmodmap: up to 3 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses): shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) lock Caps_Lock (0x42) control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d) mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x71), Meta_L (0x9c) mod2 Num_Lock (0x4d) mod3 mod4 Super_L (0x7f), Hyper_L (0x80) mod5 Mode_switch (0x5d), ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c) phoenix% xmodmap -e "add mod4 = Super_R" phoenix% xmodmap xmodmap: up to 3 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses): shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) lock Caps_Lock (0x42) control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d) mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x71), Meta_L (0x9c) mod2 Num_Lock (0x4d) mod3 mod4 Super_L (0x7f), Hyper_L (0x80), Super_R (0x74) mod5 Mode_switch (0x5d), ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c) On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@web.de> wrote: > > Am 12.11.2008 um 21:26 schrieb Yarek Kowalik: > > Any clue where I need to tweak to make this work? >> > > > You need to do it in X. The command 'xmodmap -pm' should print that both > control and both super modifiers have an equal meaning, although the system > can distinguish between them. Something like this should be shown: > > xmodmap: up to 2 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses): > > shift Shift_L (0x40), Shift_R (0x44) > lock Caps_Lock (0x41) > control Control_L (0x43), Control_R (0x46) > mod1 Mode_switch (0x42), Mode_switch (0x45) > mod2 Meta_L (0x3f) > mod3 Super_L (0x2a), Super_R (0x2f) > mod4 > mod5 > > With xmodmap you can make your right and left modifier variants be "on the > same level." Xmodmap can use kind of a "script," a file ~/.xmodmaprc that > adjusts the details, which is invoked from ~/.xinitrc before the first X > client is launched. > > GNU Emacs relies on X11. > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." > – Buck Henry > > > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 4409 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Combining Ctrl + Super_l + ' (quote) does not work 2008-11-12 23:09 ` Yarek Kowalik @ 2008-11-14 0:08 ` Peter Dyballa 2008-11-14 7:42 ` Yarek Kowalik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2008-11-14 0:08 UTC (permalink / raw To: Yarek Kowalik; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Am 13.11.2008 um 00:09 schrieb Yarek Kowalik: > shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) > lock Caps_Lock (0x42) > control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d) > mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x71), Meta_L (0x9c) > mod2 Num_Lock (0x4d) > mod3 > mod4 Super_L (0x7f), Hyper_L (0x80) > mod5 Mode_switch (0x5d), ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c) Alt and Meta are the same – not good. Throw away Num_Lock and put Meta into its slot. Then move Hyper to mod3. Now you can add Super_R as another mod4. Before you can add any modifier you first need to declare it as a key, for example (with decimal number): keycode 116 = Super_R The utility xev can tell you the key's code. Once it's defined, xmodmap -pk should list it. Then you can make it a modifier. As an example one of my corrections works like this: clear Mod1 add Mod1 = Alt_L Alt_R clear Mod2 add Mod2 = Meta_L Meta_R -- Greetings Pete Globalisation – communism from above. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Combining Ctrl + Super_l + ' (quote) does not work 2008-11-14 0:08 ` Peter Dyballa @ 2008-11-14 7:42 ` Yarek Kowalik 2008-11-15 10:17 ` Peter Dyballa 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Yarek Kowalik @ 2008-11-14 7:42 UTC (permalink / raw To: Peter Dyballa; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2746 bytes --] Thanks for the tips. I used xev to get the kecodes conformed. I tried making the changes you suggested, and here is what I got: phoenix% xmodmap xmodmap: up to 4 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses): shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) lock Caps_Lock (0x42) control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d) mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x71) mod2 mod3 Hyper_L (0x80) mod4 Super_L (0x73), Super_R (0x74) mod5 Mode_switch (0x5d), ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c) Note the absence of Meta_L and Meta_R: whenever I tried "add mod2 = Meta_L and Meta_R" it would register as "Alt_L and Alt_R" and then Alt modifier commands would stop working. I could not produce Meta_L and Meta_R in xev, and xmodmap reports these as: 64 0xffe9 (Alt_L) 0xffe7 (Meta_L) 113 0xffea (Alt_R) 0xffe8 (Meta_R) In any event, the after making the changes above it still did not fix the original problem. I still cannot get C-s-' but only on Control_L + Super_L + ' . Super_R works fine, and Super_L works fine with Control_R too. I'm a little confused why all this xmodmap is necessary.. I can get s-' working on both Super_L and Super_R just fine, as well as C-' with Control_L and Control_R. and I can get C-s-' with any combo of Control and Super with exception of C_L and S_L. I'm having a feeling that it's more emacs thing than xmodmap thing. Thanks for the suggestions... keep them coming if you spot something worth trying. Cheers, Yarek On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@web.de> wrote: > > Am 13.11.2008 um 00:09 schrieb Yarek Kowalik: > > shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) >> lock Caps_Lock (0x42) >> control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d) >> mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x71), Meta_L (0x9c) >> mod2 Num_Lock (0x4d) >> mod3 >> mod4 Super_L (0x7f), Hyper_L (0x80) >> mod5 Mode_switch (0x5d), ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c) >> > > Alt and Meta are the same – not good. Throw away Num_Lock and put Meta into > its slot. Then move Hyper to mod3. Now you can add Super_R as another mod4. > > Before you can add any modifier you first need to declare it as a key, for > example (with decimal number): > > keycode 116 = Super_R > > The utility xev can tell you the key's code. Once it's defined, xmodmap -pk > should list it. Then you can make it a modifier. > > As an example one of my corrections works like this: > > clear Mod1 > add Mod1 = Alt_L Alt_R > clear Mod2 > add Mod2 = Meta_L Meta_R > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > Globalisation – communism from above. > > > > > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 4232 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Combining Ctrl + Super_l + ' (quote) does not work 2008-11-14 7:42 ` Yarek Kowalik @ 2008-11-15 10:17 ` Peter Dyballa 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2008-11-15 10:17 UTC (permalink / raw To: Yarek Kowalik; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Am 14.11.2008 um 08:42 schrieb Yarek Kowalik: > 64 0xffe9 (Alt_L) 0xffe7 (Meta_L) > 113 0xffea (Alt_R) 0xffe8 (Meta_R) This is nonsense! A modifier key can't be modified by another, the Shift, key. Each modifier key has to be a single. Otherwise: is A-S-a meant or is it M-a? -- Greetings Pete If my theory of relativity is proven successful, Germany will claim me as a German, and France will declare that I am a citizen of the world. Should my theory prove untrue, France will say that I am a German, and Germany will declare that I am a Jew. – Albert Einstein, 1929 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: Combining Ctrl + Super_l + ' (quote) does not work [not found] ` <mailman.209.1226536048.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2008-11-13 21:49 ` Yarek Kowalik 2008-11-13 21:55 ` Joost Kremers 2008-11-14 0:02 ` Drew Adams 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Yarek Kowalik @ 2008-11-13 21:49 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs Does anyone know how to trace key presses in emacs? Yarek On Nov 12, 3:09 pm, "Yarek Kowalik" <yarek.kowa...@gmail.com> wrote: > I tried doing the "add" command with xmodmap (see below), and that didn't > work. > There are two comments on this: > > 1) the default xmodmap is identical between x86 and amd64 machines, yet the > amd64 is not working. Doing xmodmap "add" does not help -- I even tried > restarting emacs > > 2) note that Ctrl_R + *Super_L* + ' works fine, but Ctrl_L + *Super_L* + ' > does not. It's the left Ctrl with left Super that's not functioning. > > It's baffling. Any other thoughts? > > Yarek > > phoenix% xmodmap > xmodmap: up to 3 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses): > > shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) > lock Caps_Lock (0x42) > control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d) > mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x71), Meta_L (0x9c) > mod2 Num_Lock (0x4d) > mod3 > mod4 Super_L (0x7f), Hyper_L (0x80) > mod5 Mode_switch (0x5d), ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c) > > phoenix% xmodmap -e "add mod4 = Super_R" > phoenix% xmodmap > xmodmap: up to 3 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses): > > shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) > lock Caps_Lock (0x42) > control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d) > mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x71), Meta_L (0x9c) > mod2 Num_Lock (0x4d) > mod3 > mod4 Super_L (0x7f), Hyper_L (0x80), Super_R (0x74) > mod5 Mode_switch (0x5d), ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c) > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyba...@web.de> wrote: > > > Am 12.11.2008 um 21:26 schrieb Yarek Kowalik: > > > Any clue where I need to tweak to make this work? > > > You need to do it in X. The command 'xmodmap -pm' should print that both > > control and both super modifiers have an equal meaning, although the system > > can distinguish between them. Something like this should be shown: > > > xmodmap: up to 2 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses): > > > shift Shift_L (0x40), Shift_R (0x44) > > lock Caps_Lock (0x41) > > control Control_L (0x43), Control_R (0x46) > > mod1 Mode_switch (0x42), Mode_switch (0x45) > > mod2 Meta_L (0x3f) > > mod3 Super_L (0x2a), Super_R (0x2f) > > mod4 > > mod5 > > > With xmodmap you can make your right and left modifier variants be "on the > > same level." Xmodmap can use kind of a "script," a file ~/.xmodmaprc that > > adjusts the details, which is invoked from ~/.xinitrc before the first X > > client is launched. > > > GNU Emacs relies on X11. > > > -- > > Greetings > > > Pete > > > "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." > > – Buck Henry ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Combining Ctrl + Super_l + ' (quote) does not work 2008-11-13 21:49 ` Yarek Kowalik @ 2008-11-13 21:55 ` Joost Kremers 2008-11-14 0:02 ` Drew Adams 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Joost Kremers @ 2008-11-13 21:55 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs Yarek Kowalik wrote: > Does anyone know how to trace key presses in emacs? C-h l -- Joost Kremers joostkremers@yahoo.com Selbst in die Unterwelt dringt durch Spalten Licht EN:SiS(9) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* RE: Combining Ctrl + Super_l + ' (quote) does not work 2008-11-13 21:49 ` Yarek Kowalik 2008-11-13 21:55 ` Joost Kremers @ 2008-11-14 0:02 ` Drew Adams 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Drew Adams @ 2008-11-14 0:02 UTC (permalink / raw To: 'Yarek Kowalik', help-gnu-emacs > Does anyone know how to trace key presses in emacs? C-h f open-dribble-file ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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