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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
Cc: 34114@debbugs.gnu.org, karl@karlotness.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com
Subject: bug#34114: 27.0.50: pdumper and themes with Emacs daemon
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 07:32:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <92BA4FF9-C87A-4844-9114-7F716434681C@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed229163-5fca-4244-bb60-84fa6bb4033b@email.android.com>

On January 23, 2019 6:05:40 AM GMT+02:00, Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 22, 2019 7:43 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
> > Cc: karl@karlotness.com, 34114@debbugs.gnu.org,
> kaushal.modi@gmail.com 
> > From: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org> 
> > Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:41:34 -0800 
> > 
> > > What is special about frames that precludes them from being
> recorded 
> > > by the pdumper? 
> > 
> > Frames contain instance-specific state, and I don't think it makes
> sense 
> > to try to pretend that individual frames survive from one Emacs 
> > invocation to another. 
> 
> Sorry, I still don't think I understand: what is that 
> instance-specific state, in terms of members of the frame object, or 
> its attributes? 
> 
> 
> A frame is always associated with a specific pty, specific X11 window,
> specific win32 window, etc. These concepts do not exist across
> different invocations of Emacs. I don't understand what you don't
> understand. 

I didn't understand what you meant by "instance".  I think I do now -- you mean output_method, output_data, and terminal members of struct frame?  If so, these are (trivially) figured out for the initial frame, they are set to special values.  And we delete that initial frame during startup, as soon as we can.  So I don't think I understand the concerns.  What specific problems could be caused by retaining this initial frame?





  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-23  5:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-17 11:15 bug#34114: 27.0.50: pdumper and themes with Emacs daemon Karl Otness
2019-01-17 20:01 ` Kaushal Modi
2019-01-17 20:38   ` Kaushal Modi
2019-01-18 23:02     ` Karl Otness
2019-01-18 23:23       ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-18 23:37         ` Karl Otness
2019-01-18 23:49           ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-19  0:09             ` Karl Otness
2019-01-19  7:05       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-21 22:59         ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-22 16:28           ` Kaushal Modi
2019-01-22 16:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-23  1:41             ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-23  3:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-23  4:05                 ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-23  5:32                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-01-23  6:48                     ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-24 15:11                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-24 19:22                         ` Karl Otness
2019-01-26 10:22                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-01-27 18:40                             ` Kaushal Modi

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