From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: chad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Usage examples of dedicated windows and popup frames? Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:47:58 -0700 Message-ID: <91A7219F-3B2F-4CD5-8DA1-541B2E5EA9D3@mit.edu> References: <871uy0n9ch.fsf@member.fsf.org> <8762nc8xqe.fsf@member.fsf.org> <4E185100.2050100@gmx.at> <7B4A38E4-3C68-42D3-BD71-389E09EDE2A7@mit.edu> <10B406BE18D04F6683EFBD149E419952@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--674286754 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310493740 9351 80.91.229.12 (12 Jul 2011 18:02:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'martin rudalics' , 'Tassilo Horn' , 'Stefan Monnier' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 12 20:02:10 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QghHZ-0006hB-JF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:02:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50650 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QghHY-0000MD-Ca for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:02:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42868) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qgh43-0005CP-Mt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:48:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qgh41-0006EA-EU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:48:07 -0400 Original-Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-6.mit.edu ([18.7.68.35]:43291) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qgh41-0006E5-5g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:48:05 -0400 X-AuditID: 12074423-b7cb3ae000000a19-91-4e1c88ce2c77 Original-Received: from mailhub-auth-1.mit.edu ( [18.9.21.35]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-6.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 29.80.02585.EC88C1E4; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-1.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id p6CHm3Ae021545; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:48:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.0.1.22] (c-67-183-32-38.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.183.32.38]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as yandros@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id p6CHlw1V006328 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:48:01 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <10B406BE18D04F6683EFBD149E419952@us.oracle.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrKKsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixCmqrHuuQ8bPYNd6LovLh1+xWDxe8ITV 4tuvrcwWU3+tY7FYv2UNqwOrx/8VE9g92qaZeax/s5fJY/PNSI+PT2+xBLBGcdmkpOZklqUW 6dslcGVMunKJseC9aMX3h4cZGxgPC3UxcnJICJhIHD1xhAnCFpO4cG89G4gtJLCPUeJZh2kX IxeQvYFR4tCWW8wQzkkmib7+dSwgVcICThLt7e/BbF4BQ4mlm9rZQWxmAVeJ3+ePMnYxcnCw CcgATdUACXMK2EpsfP8erIRFQFXi594lTCAlzAJrGCVmxkFMsZL4vfAgK8Sqo0wSzQt3M4Ik RATUJE5+e84OUi8hICvRtCxjAqPALCSLZyFZDGFrSyxb+Jp5FtgGHYnJC9GEIeyP548wLWBk W8Uom5JbpZubmJlTnJqsW5ycmJeXWqRrppebWaKXmlK6iREUI+wuyjsY/xxUOsQowMGoxMNb lCjjJ8SaWFZcmXuIUZKDSUmU91o7UIgvKT+lMiOxOCO+qDQntfgQowQHs5IIr40xUI43JbGy KrUoHyYlzcGiJM6b6/3fV0ggPbEkNTs1tSC1CCYrw8GhJMErAkwFQoJFqempFWmZOSUIaSYO TpDhPEDDmUBqeIsLEnOLM9Mh8qcYdTmOX5h7hFGIJS8/L1VKnJelGqhIAKQoozQPbg4stb1i FAd6S5hXEGQUDzAtwk16BbSECWjJa2lJkCUliQgpqQZGc+kdxnt/vJVf/EiT//u8QjUPx7Or vpu7xv00erF6qaKwk871fce8+XT/hL1lW7HlY4BIrsyZp37K/as/M+affWlgMEHx X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 18.7.68.35 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141982 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail-3--674286754 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 10, 2011, at 2:43 AM, Drew Adams wrote: >> Do you take special steps with the Ediff frame? That's the=20 >> other problem case I'm seeing with multiple frames and focus=20 >> on Windows/MacOSX. >=20 > [...] >=20 > I typically use `ediff-buffers'. In my setup (non-nil `pop-up-frames' = etc.), > each of the two buffers is typically in its own frame; those = (portrait) frames > are side by side; and the Ediff Control Panel (buffer `Ediff') is a = separate > (tiny) frame. =20 >=20 > You didn't say what kinds of problems you see. Sorry; I didn't mean to sound like I was reporting a bug as much as an uncomfortable system interaction. My primary problem with ediff is the Ediff Control Panel; I find that I have to manually give it focus after almost every operation. I was wondering if anyone had worked out a way around this annoyance on click-to-focus systems like Windows and MacOSX. Thanks, *Chad= --Apple-Mail-3--674286754 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Do you take special steps = with the Ediff frame?  That's the
other problem case I'm seeing with multiple frames and = focus
on = Windows/MacOSX.

[...]

I typically use = `ediff-buffers'.  In my setup (non-nil `pop-up-frames' = etc.),
each of the two buffers is typically in its own frame; those = (portrait) frames
are side by side; and the Ediff Control Panel = (buffer `Ediff') is a separate
(tiny) frame.  

You didn't = say what kinds of problems you see.

Sorr= y; I didn't mean to sound like I was reporting a bug as much as = an
uncomfortable system interaction.  My primary problem = with ediff is
the Ediff Control Panel; I find that I have to = manually give it focus
after almost every operation. I was = wondering if anyone had worked out
a way around this annoyance = on click-to-focus systems like Windows
and = MacOSX.

Thanks,
*Chad
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