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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Stefan Monnier'" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 'Leo' <sdl.web@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: `completion-in-region'
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:13:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <913F8B3D3E9C4288B051202B2E7F8522@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvpr25yb8n.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> > The question is whether matching like this should be the 
> > default. IMO, no.
> 
> It's not even a question.

Good. It seemed to be an implied question from Leo:

Leo> BTW, some modern text editors (such as textmate) have
Leo> started offering fuzzy completion as default.

> I could imagine using such a matching scheme by default at some
> point in the future, but it would need to be significantly refined.
> The main problem is that by turning "abc" into a global like 
> "*a*b*c" we tend to get many matches of variable quality.  So we'd
> need some way to compare the quality and only keep the ones that
> have the best quality.
> 
> At least that's what I try to do in my "forgive" completion-style
> (don't look for it, I don't think I've sent it out anywhere yet)
> which allows "abc" to match not only "albacore" but also "yacc"
> (i.e. it can insert&delete chars): the ability to delete chars
> means that fundamentally any input string can match any
> completion candidate, so there it's pretty obvious that you need
> to sort the candidates by "how close" they are to the input
> string.

Take a look at the URL I posted before:
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Icicles_-_Fuzzy_Completion 

You'll see several fuzzy-matching techniques described there. All except the one
we're talking about here (scatter aka TextMate matching) have some _measure of
fit_ such as you describe.

And all have their uses and their drawbacks. I would not recommend using any of
them as the default matching method.





  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-11 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-06 14:37 `completion-in-region' Leo
2010-04-09  3:05 ` `completion-in-region' Stefan Monnier
2010-04-11 12:56   ` `completion-in-region' Leo
2010-04-11 15:32     ` `completion-in-region' Stefan Monnier
2010-04-11 18:05       ` `completion-in-region' Drew Adams
2010-04-11 19:44         ` `completion-in-region' Stefan Monnier
2010-04-11 19:56           ` `completion-in-region' Drew Adams
2010-04-11 20:49             ` `completion-in-region' Stefan Monnier
2010-04-11 21:13               ` Drew Adams [this message]
2010-04-11 20:08           ` `completion-in-region' Lennart Borgman
2010-04-11 20:51             ` `completion-in-region' Stefan Monnier
2010-04-11 21:06               ` `completion-in-region' Lennart Borgman
2010-04-12  2:10                 ` `completion-in-region' Stefan Monnier
2010-04-12  9:46                   ` `completion-in-region' Lennart Borgman
2010-04-12 13:10                     ` `completion-in-region' Stefan Monnier
2010-04-12 14:50                     ` `completion-in-region' Davis Herring
2010-04-11 21:12             ` `completion-in-region' Drew Adams
2010-04-12 15:36       ` `completion-in-region' Leo
2010-04-12 18:10         ` `completion-in-region' Stefan Monnier
2010-04-12 15:51       ` `completion-in-region' Leo

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