From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 15839@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#15839: 24.3.50; `isearch-allow-scroll': be able to scroll point off screen temporarily
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 07:33:40 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <90b5abf1-8203-4a50-877c-04070376c52a@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<83lg5bc9d6.fsf@gnu.org>>
> > > "If non-nil, scrolling commands can be used in Isearch mode.
> > > However, the current match can't scroll offscreen if the value is
> > > t.
> > > But if it's `unlimited', the current match can scroll offscreen.
> > > You may want to enable `lazy-highlight-buffer' in this case.
> > > If nil, scrolling commands will cancel Isearch mode."
> > >
> > > If you don't agree, please suggest a better wording.
> >
> > I prefer the standard approach: say first what the default
> > (nil) does. Then say what non-nil does.
>
> I disagree that this should be a guideline.
I should have said "a more typical approach".
> The following two variants are equivalently good documentation, IMO:
>
> Variant 1:
>
> "If non-nil, scrolling commands can be used in Isearch mode.
> If nil, the default, scrolling commands will cancel Isearch mode.
>
> If the value is t, the current match cannot be scrolled off-screen,
> but that limitation is removed if the value is `unlimited'.
> You may want to enable `lazy-highlight-buffer' in this case."
>
> Variant 2:
>
> "If nil, the default, scrolling commands will cancel Isearch mode.
> If non-nil, scrolling commands can be used in Isearch mode.
>
> If the value is t, the current match cannot be scrolled off-screen,
> but that limitation is removed if the value is `unlimited'.
> You may want to enable `lazy-highlight-buffer' in this case."
>
> And I think I slightly prefer the first one. Note that I rephrased
> the last part.
Yes, both of those variants are also clear.
In any case, the fact that nil is the default should
be stated clearly, and the nil and non-nil cases should
be stated up front. That different non-nil cases exist
comes afterward, so it is clear that they have a common
non-nil behavior.
I think it's can sometimes be clearer to put all of the
description(s) of non-nil behavior together, but it's
not a requirement for a clear description.
Describing the general nil vs non-nil together is
usually helpful, I think, before mentioning any
particular non-nil behavior (unless it is the default).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-30 15:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-08 23:02 bug#15839: 24.3.50; `isearch-allow-scroll': be able to scroll point off screen temporarily Drew Adams
2013-11-09 0:57 ` Juri Linkov
2013-11-09 3:09 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-10 13:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-10 16:52 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-11 19:08 ` Drew Adams
2018-11-24 22:45 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-25 3:14 ` Drew Adams
2018-11-25 20:15 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-26 0:16 ` Drew Adams
2018-11-26 23:35 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-27 0:49 ` Drew Adams
2018-11-28 0:35 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-28 15:15 ` Drew Adams
2018-11-28 23:01 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-29 3:36 ` Drew Adams
2018-11-29 22:23 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-30 0:27 ` Drew Adams
2018-11-30 7:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<83lg5bc9d6.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-11-30 15:33 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2018-12-04 0:29 ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-04 14:46 ` Drew Adams
2018-12-04 20:46 ` Drew Adams
2018-12-04 21:38 ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-05 0:32 ` Drew Adams
2018-12-05 23:44 ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-06 1:20 ` Drew Adams
2018-12-05 12:59 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-12-05 23:49 ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-06 12:15 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-12-06 23:03 ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-07 12:42 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-12-08 23:38 ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-09 1:13 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-12-10 0:21 ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-10 0:58 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-12-11 0:37 ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-11 18:22 ` Michael Heerdegen
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