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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210292 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --tqkidLE7ldkl1iq124eAAj0NKF5khhasT Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="sijXUjqqpJmXclxwqT68WK2enFSVrIXWr"; protected-headers="v1" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Message-ID: <909381ed-d0a8-52ea-119f-bdc2edb75136@gmail.com> Subject: Re: RFC: String interpolation References: <51825111-ace4-f750-4077-026a3b648d27@gmail.com> <8737hwnc52.fsf@lifelogs.com> In-Reply-To: --sijXUjqqpJmXclxwqT68WK2enFSVrIXWr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-12-11 12:38, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Thanks for the feedback! Can you share concrete examples in which this= >> makes maintenance harder? > > I think the simple fact that it makes > highlighting/completion/indentation more complex (not to mention the > potential to have format-strings within format-strings within...) is > a good hint that you don't want to encourage writing code within the > format string I agree with all of this; but the fact that a feature can be abused doesn= 't mean that it is bad, right? for example, being able to use virtually a= ny character in lisp identifiers is nice; yet we don't encourage anyone t= o write (let ((\(\'\) 1)) (print \(\'\))). > it works fine for very simple pieces of code, but for > anything more significant you're better off writing the code outside th= e > string (and then referring to that code from the string). I fully agree. 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