From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 13:20:34 +0000 Message-ID: <9088e12cb37ff8d2e033@heytings.org> References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org>, <9088e12cb3de3d30abf1@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13917"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: arthur miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 21 14:21:31 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lNy1L-0003WI-RE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 14:21:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40174 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lNy1K-0005Ys-OH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 09:21:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48634) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lNy0X-0004jL-H0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 09:20:41 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:39216) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lNy0S-00086y-QQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 09:20:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1616332834; bh=H4gsOdMfqLRzdYp577jd/OL2ssd3xeMvNqUBwxJ5RO8=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=TveIWRF6j/5tc946a+fqi6/vbjn73tYIS8Si4t+sw73/3k4Nv/9zy4kopeM4MdJQ+ Ev9U/nkdH9OtJH7hZQnz3JSbNY/YDB1Tj6KyaMP+k5XEmK59ltNtQCRhXP/bl6DGbN UmuoF7WGUNrGauXtopU1L6rjtCBAjSYhqkCFPDHOYx3ywRbHyA2EtR4Znfd3j96Z94 lDRhDT94kJfn1QfYemBClic+ysgigLcY8T/FDMZCvKWU7wxAFhyahxTu1O4d8BhytD jKRb5lLfk/ukYlD52Ry12x4s2x1OKNLENHi3/vqhXY1GdAlxWTgrMTQPhKA+gd5OU9 yjVG1m2fo2/dQ== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266703 Archived-At: > > I don't understand why people are so passionately wasting time on > arguing about shortcuts. As I understand Emacs it is supposed to be > molded after each ones preference. > Of course Emacs can be molded to ones preferences, but the discussion is about Emacs' default bindings, about sensible defaults that improve Emacs' user experience for newcomers. This is not a waste of time, at least not more than, say, creating new color themes, or improving the help-for-help screen.