From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs cvs newbie problems Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 21:44:50 +0300 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <9003-Wed18Sep2002214449+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> References: <200209160002.g8G02Eb06228@f7.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1032374785 16111 127.0.0.1 (18 Sep 2002 18:46:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 18:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: karl@freefriends.org, hattons@speakeasy.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17rjqC-0004Bi-00 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:46:24 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17rkUc-0002f2-00 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 21:28:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17rjqU-0007xf-00; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:46:42 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17rjo5-0007ug-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:44:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17rjny-0007u0-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:44:12 -0400 Original-Received: from balder.inter.net.il ([192.114.186.15]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17rjnx-0007tu-00; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:44:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Zaretsky ([80.230.2.40]) by balder.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.1.0.58-GA) with ESMTP id BTN57474; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 21:44:00 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:28:14 -0400) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7995 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7995 > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:28:14 -0400 > > If each part of the menu were sorted alphabetically, would that help? > We could make install-info do that. > > It already does. If we're talking about the Info dir file. > > It is not ordered alphabetically in my Info dir file. If you are talking about the DIR file which comes with Emacs, then it's done on purpose. See below. IIRC, install-info sorts sections and in each section it sorts the entries of that section. > Is this a recent change in install-info? It's not a recent change, but the code was made more reliable in Texinfo 4.0. > Meanwhile, there should be some exceptions to alphabetical order. For > instance, in the Emacs section, the Emacs item should come first. That's exactly the reason why the DIR file in the Emacs distribution is not really sorted alphabetically. It is produced by hand rather than by install-info, and the order comes from a human.