From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hikaru Ichijyo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: launch a program in an arbitrary frame Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 12:12:53 -0500 Organization: UN Spacy Message-ID: <8xxmvyte6ei.fsf@village.keycorner.org> References: <8xxwpxyducd.fsf@village.keycorner.org> <8xxr3o5ea34.fsf@village.keycorner.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437239718 18922 80.91.229.3 (18 Jul 2015 17:15:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 17:15:18 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 18 19:15:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGVhl-0003HU-Mc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 19:15:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48911 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGVhk-0004YZ-L6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:15:16 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!news.alt.net!news.astraweb.com!border5.newsrouter.astraweb.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7tNDJ+6WB3iFNzGQafpPtUOeE+g= Original-Lines: 21 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ecafc791.news.astraweb.com Original-X-Trace: DXC=h`4WZjKl9B_G1R=S=Gj0ib>HdYUoB6e^?9Z0mn List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:105810 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Emacs is very large, but other packages get bloated so much faster > that Emacs's large size is rather small by today's standards. Yes, I remember Eight Megs Always Continually Swapping... :) But you're right -- by today's standards, it's a very thin application. On my system, it launches in about one second, even with all the stuff I've got in my ~/.emacs. Everything is nearly instant, and if anything ever causes system-wide problems, you can be sure it's never Emacs. It's gone from being regarded as a monstrosity to a model citizen desktop application, all just because everything else got go bloated in comparison. -- He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. --Thomas Paine