From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11359: 24.1.50; Difficulty using report-emacs-bug with mew Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:18:57 -0400 Message-ID: <8u62clghri.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20120427.095554.1099121047372240381.hanche@math.ntnu.no> <20120427.200100.1739016347250312474.hanche@math.ntnu.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335550810 25134 80.91.229.3 (27 Apr 2012 18:20:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:20:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11359@debbugs.gnu.org To: Harald Hanche-Olsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 27 20:20:09 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SNply-0005tz-Se for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:20:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43844 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNply-0004rK-6W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43252) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNplv-0004r4-QV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:20:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNplt-00078a-NO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:19:59 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54647) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNplt-00078Q-KH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:19:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SNpmw-0001oO-9c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:21:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11359 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11359-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11359.13355508076899 (code B ref 11359); Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11359) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2012 18:20:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55681 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SNpm2-0001nC-CV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:20:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:47667 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SNpm0-0001n6-K3 for 11359@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:20:05 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNpkw-0005Xb-2h; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:18:58 -0400 X-Spook: investigation cryptanalysis ICE import rail gun Audiotel X-Ran: r,r4NOaKD&'{ExpzxKZLt5)"s5|BFl5{nz(SDSIx[8?yt|O9Bh\F%NNjUa]YD]Q3,=8i\j X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <20120427.200100.1739016347250312474.hanche@math.ntnu.no> (Harald Hanche-Olsen's message of "Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:01:00 +0200 (CEST)") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:59564 Archived-At: Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: > Ah. I see. But then define-mail-user-agent seems incomplete. At the > very least, maybe the docstring for define-mail-user-agent should > mention send-mail-function? I don't think so. A mail user agent is a separate thing from a mail transport agent. Also, define-mail-user-agent is not something a user should call. The mail package should do it. So if Mew does not do that for you, I'd say that is a Mew bug. > In fact, send-mail-function is mentioned only in 35.4.1 (Mail > Sending), Seems like the right place for it (there is a link there from the very top of the section about sending mail). > which is a subsection of Mail Mode. I don't see that (there is no "Mail Mode" section in the current manual). Anyway, the whole point is that you don't really need to know about this variable beforehand. Emacs will interactively prompt you to set it. > When I saw this, I figured (wrongly, as it turned out) "default email > client" referred to an email client external to emacs. It does refer to that. > The first alternative did in fact work. Oddly enough, it set > send-mail-function to mailclient-send-it, and the message did in fact > get sent, even though the file containing the definition of > mailclient-send-it did not even get loaded.) That doesn't seem right, and I have no idea how that could happen.