From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17558: 24.4.50; global-subword-mode breaks ERC Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 16:03:21 -0400 Message-ID: <8rvbghcp9y.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87ppj4ette.fsf@secretsauce.net> <537FB4C8.3080809@dancol.org> <87a924mbuk.fsf@secretsauce.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430165069 32614 80.91.229.3 (27 Apr 2015 20:04:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Dima Kogan , 17558@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 27 22:04:22 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YmpGN-00085l-15 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 22:04:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57502 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YmpGB-0004xz-6V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 16:04:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36535) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YmpG8-0004xs-6Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 16:04:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YmpG7-0000JP-AT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 16:04:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51800) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YmpG7-0000JJ-5t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 16:04:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YmpG6-0005yV-LT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 16:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87ppj4ette.fsf@secretsauce.net> Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17558 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17558-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17558.143016500922926 (code B ref 17558); Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17558) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2015 20:03:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41576 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YmpFY-0005xh-LN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 16:03:29 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:45614 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YmpFX-0005xa-FJ for 17558@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 16:03:27 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YmpFS-0003Lu-4o; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 16:03:22 -0400 X-Spook: target Guantanamo encryption sweep Exon Shell insurgency X-Ran: ]!MW)ZQ(HsDY(V7O1TdAz;xf1h,_-%UrYO>r X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:102110 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: > Indeed, with the new implementation of subword-mode, most of the > word-operating commands should be marked as "interactive use only", > since their behavior is too unreliable for use in Lisp code. Sounds to me like it will be a PITA to review/replace every non-interactive usage of those commands. Are people certain they want to go down this road? (At time of writing, I don't see any mention of forward-word etc no longer being safe in NEWS.)